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Date: 2009-10-28 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
Believe me, you don't even want to know what the stats are like for trans people.

Date: 2009-10-29 09:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meihua.livejournal.com
Oh, I know, they're grim. Highest fatality rate of any "mental" condition, right?

(Not that trans is a mental condition, grrr.)

Date: 2009-10-29 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meihua.livejournal.com
Also, don't be silly, there's no such thing as a transgender person on a dating site.

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Date: 2009-10-29 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
I take your point and the third option should be there, but by the same token I know plenty of transfolk who have no problem at all choosing one of the two, and indeed have run into them (presumably unknowingly as well as knowingly) in such places.

It might be fairer and more accurate to say that transgender people are underrepresented on dating sites, but then the same is true I imagine for many, many minority groups and walks of society. Dating sites are not for everyone, and don't appeal to every section of society in the same way or for the same reasons, and I couldn't begin to guess who's most represented where. Maybe OKCupid's analytics blog will get to it.

Date: 2009-10-29 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meihua.livejournal.com
... which leads to the social model and the fact that we have a society designed in such a way which excludes many minority groups, often by accident, or at least lack of deliberation.

Certainly didn't mean to imply, though, that transgender == third-gender. Transgender is an umbrella which includes third-gender.

Date: 2009-10-29 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
Certainly didn't mean to imply, though, that transgender == third-gender. Transgender is an umbrella which includes third-gender.

If you go back and look at your comment, that is precisely what you implied. You wanna watch that. ;P

Date: 2009-10-29 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meihua.livejournal.com
Yes, acknowledged. I certainly try to watch my words around transgender <> transsexual, but given the massive overrepresentation of transsexual compared to other transgender identities, I don't mind that much occasionally straying into overrepresenting non-binary-gendered transgender people.

Date: 2009-10-29 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khbrown.livejournal.com
Why only three genders? Why the need to include one group within an umbrella which maybe not all of those within it may accept?

Not trying to be picky, but just wondering if binary thinking has been defeated here, only to lead to trinary thinking instead.

Date: 2009-10-30 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
My thoughts exactly. The only way to defeat genderism is to reject the concept altogether.

Date: 2009-10-29 08:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-29 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khbrown.livejournal.com
What are the statistical correlations here, the confidence levels that it isn't random and the strengths of the correlations, if there are any?

Date: 2009-10-29 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khbrown.livejournal.com
I don't necessarily think you can.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if there is someone amongst your collective readership who can...

Date: 2009-10-29 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevegreen.livejournal.com
No, but I've since discovered several of my friends kept a very careful eye on me last year.

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