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Date: 2009-08-13 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncoxon.livejournal.com
Was it you who posted the link to the story about Apple censoring a dictionary with the words 'I'm never going to get an iPhone'? If so, you should read this, which might make you regard the company with a little more respect/a slightly higher opinion of their sanity.

Date: 2009-08-13 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bracknellexile.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's a shame Schiller appears to be lying - or at least contradicting himself:

From the article:
Apple did not censor the content in this developer’s application and Apple did not reject this developer’s application for including references to common swear words.

but the feedback Matchstick software received from the App Store reviewers was very specific. They were flagged for the words c***, f***, and s***. Those three words are in other dictionaries, rated as low as 4+. (starred out by me as it's someone else's journal).

I believe the flagging of these words was also accompanied by screenshots of the offending words. That is very definitely rejection based on content.

It's a start that, for the first time, we're getting glimpses of how the App Store approval process works, but the rules still seem to be arbitrary and applied depending on the mood the app store approver is in that day. It's a bigger closed shop with it's own hidden agenda than Microsoft ever was. Fro example, Google Voice getting pulled (allegedly on the whim of AT&T) springs to mind.

Nope, never going to trust Apple and never going to by an iPhone.

Date: 2009-08-13 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncoxon.livejournal.com
Schiller says, further down: "The issue that the App Store reviewers did find with the Ninjawords application is that it provided access to other more vulgar terms than those found in traditional and common dictionaries, words that many reasonable people might find upsetting or objectionable... Apple rejected the initial submission of Ninjawords for this reason...and suggested to the developer that they resubmit the application for approval once parental controls were implemented on the iPhone."

So either you didn't bother reading the whole article or you're deliberately misquoting it, neither of which makes me inclined to think I can win a rational argument against you...

Date: 2009-08-13 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bracknellexile.livejournal.com
No, not misquoting. My point was that the app was rejected with specific screenshots showing examples of S*** and F***, quite the opposite of what Schiller is claiming.

It was initially rejected on words commonly found in dictionaries (as well as the more vulgar street-slang terms in subsequent applications) highlighting the problem with the inconsistency of the App Store process. SChiller's trying to put a good spin on that with the subsequent changes but his initial statement about common swear words is simply not true.
Edited Date: 2009-08-13 01:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-08-13 11:12 am (UTC)
coughingbear: im in ur shipz debauchin ur slothz (votes for women)
From: [personal profile] coughingbear
'Damned kids want to meet their wives in advance!'

Or their husbands, presumably? Slightly surprised by quite how comprehensively male pov that article was, eg 'And, until now, not meeting your bride until the wedding day itself has been the norm.' At least, I'm assuming the Edinburgh Sikh community hasn't started celebrating same-sex marriages, but happy to be corrected on that!

Date: 2009-08-13 12:25 pm (UTC)
coughingbear: im in ur shipz debauchin ur slothz (Default)
From: [personal profile] coughingbear
Not just that, I didn't have the impression that the journalist was Sikh but all the text assumed that default reader=male - as does 'kids' in your description, I think. (That's not meant as a major criticism, we all do it, but I just stumbled over the sentence in this particular case, which was partly what made me go and read the article to see what it was like.)

Date: 2009-08-13 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
It amazes me that this is an article quite explicitely about religious progressivenes, and is still entirely male-centric, and yet there are people who I know who I consider - or at least consider themselves - to be reasonably well-educated and progressive, who believe the fight for gender equality is anywhere near over,/i>

Date: 2009-08-13 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinxremoving.livejournal.com
Or the limitations of the reporter's thinking, or the lack of time she had available to find more interviewees, or ...

Date: 2009-08-13 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com
In my defense I think I'm hormonal, but I actually found that article on the Beatles Rock Band a little moving.

Date: 2009-08-13 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bracknellexile.livejournal.com
I wonder if it docks you points for being too competent at the drums... ;)

Date: 2009-08-13 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luckylove.livejournal.com
So if MSG doesn't cause allergies does it still trigger migraines or was my Mum right about the headache and flashing lights and abdominal pain after eating chinese food being due to me eating it too fast because it's so damned tasty?

Date: 2009-08-13 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luckylove.livejournal.com
Done that. Accidentally. A number of times. Most recent was when my boyfriend didn't read the ingredients on his parents' stock cubes. It was only when I got the symptoms that we thought to check them. MSG.

I'd love to do more experimentation but my boyfriend says no. Apparently he doesn't like me being ill especially when it's the doubled over in pain and unable to see properly kind of ill. It scares him.

From when I was 7 or 8 I was convinced that the reason I got a really bad tummy ache and headache after eating Chinese food was because I ate it too fast. To be honest I can't remember if that was my theory or my Mum's. Sounds like one of hers. Eating slowly didn't help but I stopped mentioning the pain because I really liked the taste and no one else got it was probably my own fault or I deserved it or something. I didn't hear about MSG until years later.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gardener.livejournal.com
Inflation and the Fall of the Roman Empire : Anyone care to tell me if this is a reasonable/accurate assessment?

[livejournal.com profile] swisstone is probably better placed to give you a detailed critique, but I'd make the following two points: (1) inflation and debasement of the coinage was part of the Third Century Military Crisis; and (2) the transcript has a very definite libertarian/monetarist slant, which gives it a strong whiff of someone working backwards from his conclusions rather than forwards from his evidence. (The speaker's stated affiliation to the Mises Institute at the head of the transcript certainly bears out his libertarian credentials.)

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