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This might cause anyone who actually knows me (or has seen my flat) to spill their tea onto their keyboard, but I'm naturally an organised person.

When I was young, I would happily spend hours sorting my parents book collection, alphabetically by author and then chronologically by publication date. I had places for all my clothes, which were kept neatly in the wardrobe, each type of clothing on its own bit of shelving. While things could get into a mess when I'd been doing things, tidying up was fairly easy, and I preferred things to be tidy, with everything in its right place.

If all of this is making me sound like a terribly geeky/autistic child who compensated for the strange uncontrollableness of the outside world by creating a Kubrickian defined space, well I won't disagree with you too wildly. Although I'd like to stress that I was largely a happy child, at least when I was at home.

So, the question arises, how on earth did I get from this vision of order to the current state of chaos?And the answer seems to fall into two related explanations and a pair of caveats.

One caveat is that when I have things that simply fall into categories, or an easy way of keeping things organised electronically, then they tend to stay that way. Since I got an easy-to-use calendar on my phone I find it trivial to keep that up to date. My photos (at http://pics.livejournal.com/andrewducker) are all tagged. I have to-do lists at work, and keep items on both it and my defect list up to date at all times. And I do so because it makes my life easier, and I prefer it when things are neatly filed.

The other is that I am generally happier when my flat is tidy. I don't tend to notice my stress levels going up, but when it's tidy I suddenly find myself just feeling more relaxed. So it's not that I'm immune to the effects of untidiness (although I'm definitely less affected than some of the people I know.

The first, and simplest explanation, is that I have too much stuff for the space I have. I have several bookshelves, all packed to capacity, and my clothes are packed away in various places because there simply isn't enough space to store them all in my wardrobe. I don't have the room for there to be "A place for everything and everything in its place." and so I have to have "make-do" organisation, where things are organised in a way that's not bad, but it's not _right_ either. And whle slotting something into place, fitting the piece into the jigsaw and getting the program working perfectly are all things that drive me and give me a sense of achievement, shoving something into kinda the right place, getting kludgy code rushed through or otherwise doing a botched job gives me no satisfaction whatsoever. I might not be able to see the mess when it's hidden in cupboards, but I know it's still there.

The other explanation is that I stopped fully believing in order. Or rather, that I stopped believing that any particular organisational system was absolutely correct. I have a strong urge to "get things right", and the dawning realisation that there is no one, single, overriding source of correctness stripped from me the ability to satisfy this urge. It's very hard to be obsessed with organising things when you don't believe that you're doing it right, because there is no right way to do it.

I remember clearly the first time I hit an organisational problem I couldn't solve - I was around thirteen, sorting through my trade paperback collection, organising chunks of it by writers (because I was collecting everything written by Grant Morrison, Alan Moore, etc) and and chunks of it by character/series when I came across The Killing Joke, and spent a good five minutes staring at it, wondering if I should file it under Alan Moore or Batman, my brain completely locked by a problem I'd simply never encountered before. And obviously life has become ever more complicated since then.

And this has spread beyond tidiness/organisation. I lost any particular direction in my life about 6 years ago, when I realised that my search for meaning through rationality wasn't going to get anywhere, because meaning wasn't subject to rationality. Which, in itself, was a very useful conclusion to reach, but has left me in a blocked state ever since, wanting to do _something_ but not convinced of the worth of any one thing over any other.

Now the _sensible_ thing to do is to replace the idealised single, absolute, external source of rightness with a more human, relative, internal source of rightness. To take my own feelings on things and base my happiness around them. But I can't seem to quite bring myself to do so. Every time I start to build up an obsession in something, or a theory of rightness, the ultra-rational part of me steps in and points out that I'm not even building on sand, I'm building on nothing at all.

In fact, I'm building on my own feelings, and I suspect that the problem is that while I do care about my feelings a certain amount, I don't care about them enough. They don't feel anywhere near solid enough to build anything concrete and meaningful upon, so it feels like I need to either abandon the idea of meaning altogether (which would remove most of the fun from life) or reconcile myself to the idea that my emotions will just have to do as a basis for everything, and see how that goes. It doesn't feel natural, or safe, or sensible, but I don't feel like I have much choice. Possibly I need to try being unsafe and nonsensical for a while...

Date: 2006-11-30 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninox.livejournal.com
Thankfully I didn't have the cup of tea in hand at the time! I wish to propose a third theory. Attention span. When I first met you back 1991 you were still untidy. Stuff occasionally migrated but still merged into the crunchy floor like, what the hell am I standing on, mess. You do accumulate stuff but you are not too bad at clearing out when required.

I think it is more a case of there have been other more enjoyable things to do to distract you from precision tidying (unlike the shove it in the cupboard and no one else will see attitude more akin to me). Though I have been impressed. The last few times I have visited it has been tidier, I always thought it was more tidy by nagging. The things you have more interest in you are more protective over, to a point. Philosophising over tidying will not get it done, alas I would have an immaculate abode if it were. You just fit it in the diary.

Speaking of which - you still manage to double book using electronic means of keeping track, still think it is attention span!

Date: 2006-11-30 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khbrown.livejournal.com
For me a lot of it comes down to the difference between organising virtual and physical things: if I have a book, CD, DVD or whatever, then there's only one place it can physically go, so something that fits into multiple categories is always going to be more of a problem. But if I have the same thing as a set of bytes, to which I can attach/associate with different taxonomies, then it's easier to cope with that kind of thing.

Date: 2006-12-01 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilitufire.livejournal.com
You should probably go through your stuff and work out how much of it you really want / need. Two house moves and an emigration were very helpful to me - I'd comfort bought a lot of stuff I didn't really need and it felt great to get rid of it. The extra money from eBay for a lot of it didn't hurt, either!

Date: 2006-12-01 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taromazzy.livejournal.com
To be fair, Momma Ducker used to tidy a lot of it.
And your room was HUGE, so there was a stuff: cupboard space ratio thing going on.

Date: 2006-12-03 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com
I had a boss once (yeah the crazy one. the definitely far side of Aspereger's and paddling, possibly schiz, definitely paranoid one) who was conviced that there was only one logical *right* way to organise information. We had (and constantly tinkered with) the most insane file system on the network, hungarian prefixes to file names of ever-bewilderingly-increasing complexity (base 256 codes anyone??? yeah, like *THAT*). Not to mention having written a monster renamer tool to rename *EVERYTHING* in files, code, VSS, Exchange etc. every tim he changed his deranged mind.

I came in one day to find that overnight he had decided that the structure on the address database needed to go out to 'Galaxy'. (and of course we would be actually storing ALL data for this. Really! Like every single streetname and postal code on the planet...) Best of all he had written up an example and put in 'Andromeda'. I said "Maybe you really DO live in Andromeda ****** " and seriously considered starting a conversation about alternate universes and pitching that we had to cope with THAT just for the sheer mad amusement of it!

****
Emotions. You gotta 'pander to them' cos otherwise it's a nasty, nasty losing battle leading to only misery - no matter how long you manage to draw it out. I am the expert in not wanting to want things. Not wanting to need things. But that's crazy if you extend it to normal human, animal wants and needs - you are never going to be free of them - might as well roll with it...

naturally organised - hahahahaha

Date: 2006-12-04 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldbaldchris.livejournal.com
Sorry , but you are definately in denial mate. Susans right , you were a messy bugger from when we first met you back in 1991. Nothing wrong with that , but don`t try and look deeply into this for some sort of answer - just accept it. I find what you write in your LJ to be interesting and often thought provoking , but at the same time I get the distinct impression that you look deeply into things for some kind of meaning a tad too often. Even Freud said sometimes a pencil is just a pencil.

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