Date: 2022-12-02 01:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
3. I've been posting about this experience the last couple of days.

Bad, bad memories for sure. :o(

Date: 2022-12-03 07:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hairyears
(1) Is... At some level, a thing I have been expecting: the current frameworks are based on expectations that are no longer sustainable when dealing with the country that Britain has become.

I want to tell you now that there will be consequences for all of us. I am not allowed to discuss what they are likely to be, in economic terms.

In search of answers already found...

Date: 2022-12-03 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hairyears
(3) Is...

I'm not sure what to say. I haven't scrolled down to [personal profile] cmcmck's posts yet: but I, too, have disclosed something of my own, in a recent post.

Somewhat obliquely, but that's on-brand for me.

I will hold back on reading that linked article until I have a little more time, and someone nearby.

I have a horrible feeling that there will be nothing in it that I do not already know all too well. But reading it as cold facts will have an impact, as will the numbers.

I hope I do not find myself confronting an unwelcome truth that nothing is changing.

I am happy to discuss this with anyone here, or just listen to people venting, in a more private conversation. Or even an anonymous one: there are ways of doing that (hint: comment on an obscure historic post with a 'burner' account).

There are a number of partially-effective coping strategies and I should probably post them somewhere.

Likewise, there are warning signs when you're not coping, and I think these should be more widely known.

However, that level of disclosure crosses a number of personal-safety boundaries and I will not do it *here*.

Private conversations, for that.


[personal profile] cmcmck, can you drop a thought or two in a reply?

Date: 2022-12-06 07:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hairyears
3:Reading that article, I see something that tells me that the lead author is either male, or not a clinical psychiatrist.

Girls get bullied *a lot* but the data reviewed in that article is all about *and only about* the overt and easily-observed physical bullying that is stereotypical of male children.

And I think that girls are much, much less likely to disclose the stereotypically-female verbal bullying, which is very shame-based, and very destructive of the confidence and self-esteem and *trust* that is required for any f disclosure to happen, and...

Minimisation is a thing - trivialisation, dismissal of 'she said one bad thing, once or twice and you're SOOO hurt!'

And teachers are ruthlessly systematic in using minimisation to suppress girls' disclosures of extremely well-co-ordinated and effective harassment that delivers sociopathically hurtful attacks on the target's self-worth.

So everyone pretends not to know.

Or worse.

I think that the article needs to be find-and-replaced with 'bullying' replaced by 'observable bullying' and it's omissions are at least as damaging as the widespread medical practitioners' superstition that Girls Are Never Autistic.

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