Date: 2022-11-02 12:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Well, if Starmer thinks that's the way to get me back onside with the Labour party, he couldn't be more wrong!

Is he really that much of a hypocrite?

Date: 2022-11-02 01:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dewline
If he's willing to treat Mumsnet seriously, I fear the answer is "yes, as much of a hypocrite as need be".

Date: 2022-11-02 01:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
3) All I can think of to say about this is, "I am a cis male. It is none of my business to adjudge the rules for 'women-only spaces.' I have neither the knowledge nor the authority. Just like it's none of my business to tell women the rules for having abortions.
"And considering the amount of that interview that Starmer spent with his foot lodged firmly in his mouth, that shows why the same should apply to him."

4) I'd like to divide these among a) pre-modern, b) modern, c) post-modern. 1996 and 1999 are emphatically post-modern: anything that looks like a modernist building that's melted in the sun is post-modern.
Edited Date: 2022-11-02 02:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2022-11-02 02:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
Unfortunately I've heard women take both sides of this issue, and I'm not including the ones who think trans women are really men in disguise so that they can infiltrate women-only spaces: ludicrous and self-evidently false if you know any trans women. These are quite different arguments. No way can I possibly march in and say "A is right and B is wrong."

Date: 2022-11-03 07:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hairyears
Pushing back against incel ideology in schoolchildren.

My first thoughts are a weary and cynical "Good luck with that", closely followed by the worry that unsubtle opinion-nudging campaigns from central government aren't all that efective and are likely to be counterproductive in children.


And I hate that it is necessary, and that this... Has To work. It just has to.

I don't think the resilience (and surprising commonsense!) of children will deliver on 'the kids are gonna be alright' without a lot more work. Not now, not with the sophistication of modern social media manipulation.


On the bright side, I like the idea of entraining resistance to hate cults and conspiracy theories: and this initiative is going to evolve into that if it is in any way effective at pushing-back incel ideology.

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