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Minimalism run wild! :)

Date: 2018-02-12 12:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alithea
That tech industry thread was interesting, thanks.

And yeah, sadly I'm not surprised by the women in STEM thread, and I've been remarkably lucky.

Date: 2018-02-12 01:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] calimac
"Musical tastes form when puberty hits"

Well, that's true for me. I was around 12 and 13 when I discovered classical music, which had never previously hit me, and it's been the heart of my aesthetic life ever since.

The popular music of the time? Couldn't stand it. I'd theatrically retch if I were forced to be in a room with it. Only learned to appreciate some of it well into my 20s, largely because by then some of the 90% of it that was utter trash had fallen away, and I could select what was good from what remained.

Date: 2018-02-12 01:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] annie_r
Musical taste seems to have hit me at age 10-11, which is lucky because the year I was 13 (1974) had some real crap (from a top hits google search anyway; there must have been some great stuff in there.) I still listen to old R&B and pre-disco, and semi-unashamedly, dad-rock.

Date: 2018-02-12 01:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I'm not convinced by the musical taste and puberty argument. I was into classical music in single figures and still am. 18-25 at uni and things is when I really learned what music I liked (admittedly I was learning about a lot of other things to like too as you know :o)

Date: 2018-02-12 02:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mountainkiss
The music thing doesn't work for me either. Now mostly uninterested in what I listened to at age c. 13 (80s disco). Classical music started for me at age 10 - 11, then stopped until c. age 16, but the music I liked then is mostly not the music I like now. 22 is the year my music taste was really formed, but it still continues to evolve and has changed a lot over the last three years.

Date: 2018-02-12 02:55 pm (UTC)
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Very fair comment.

Date: 2018-02-12 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theandrewhickey
I think there's a simpler explanation for the music thing, which is that most people don't really like or care about music very much, but it's used by teenagers to signify social group membership, and that when in later life people want some pleasant background noise they choose something they're familiar with. I think people for whom music is a big part of their life are very different in that respect.

Date: 2018-02-12 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] birguslatro
But would people who don't care much for music be on Spotify? And especially so for older people.

Date: 2018-02-13 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theandrewhickey
In my experience, yes. Most of my family use it, and few of them care at all about music. They use its free service the way people use the radio, as a pleasant background noise in the car or similar.

Date: 2018-02-12 09:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] birguslatro
For maybe a decade or more I totally stopped listening to music by choice, but of late I've started to again. Yet I'm not interested in going back to the stuff I used to listen to.

One reason for the puberty-music link may be pure nostalgia for the intensity of that time in life. Only the music's still the same.

Date: 2018-02-13 01:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fanf
A belated thought re. music - I remembered Delaney's famous essay "the Golden Age of sf is 13" in which he makes basically the same argument

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