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andrewducker) wrote2018-01-09 12:00 pm
andrewducker) wrote2018-01-09 12:00 pm
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Interesting Links for 09-01-2018
- On The Turing Completeness of PowerPoint
- (tags: video funny powerpoint computers )
- Chris Grayling's 27 Seconds as Conservative Party Chairman
- (tags: conservatives fail viaSwampers )
- Donald Trump's tweets aren't random - he's live-tweeting his favourite tv
- (tags: tv politics usa twitter )
- The couple who got engaged and married on the same day
- (tags: marriage )
- The plummeting Conservative membership makes the party ripe for entryism
- (tags: Conservatives funny politics )
- How to argue, in eight easy steps
- (tags: argument conversation advice )
- Lemurs mob BBC News reporter
- (tags: video cute bbc )
- The Omnicopter, A Super Agile Omni-Directional Drone That Can Play Catch With a Ball
- (tags: drone video )
- Goodbye iPod, and Thanks for All the Tunes
- (tags: music apple )
- Is everything Johann Hari knows about depression wrong?
- (tags: depression OhForFucksSake johannhari mentalhealth psychology )
- Plans unveiled for new Northern Forest from Liverpool to Hull
- (tags: forests trees nature uk )
- Beginner's guide to longevity research
- (tags: longevity lifespan research )
- The reshuffle that wasn't: May blows it again
- (tags: politics conservatives fail )
- 7 articles that are basically free therapy
- (tags: advice life relationships )
- Ibuprofen alters human testicular physiology
- (tags: sex drugs )
- Iran Bans English in Primary Schools
- (tags: english iran )
- Jeremy Corbyn insists UK cannot remain in single market after Brexit
- (tags: UK Europe labour )
- China wants an orderly exit from Bitcoin mining
- (tags: bitcoin china )
- Tory MSPs back call for Scottish Parliament to reject UK Brexit Bill
- (tags: scotland uk europe politics )
- A 430-Year-Old World Map, Taking Up 60 Square Feet
- Link to a zoomable version: https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~303661~90074314:Composite--Tavola-1-60---Map-of-the
(tags: maps history ) - Swallowable sensors reveal mysteries of human gut health
- (tags: bodies )
- New insights into lifetime personality change
- (tags: personality age psychology )
- Women more likely to suffer winter depression and mood changes
- (tags: women depression winter sad )
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However, I think in this context (both the internal Tory split and the national split) it is only your position before the vote that counts. If you were for staying in the EU before the vote you are a Remainer and shall always be a Remainer.
Which is where May's problems here begin - she isn't trusted by either camp.
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Fair enough, although I do think it's important not to refer to her as a Remainer because it's so misleading. Nothing about her leadership can be interpreted through that lens.
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Similarly, what today are sometimes called "Remainers" are actually "Overturners," as in they wish to overturn the Referendum. That's a more extreme position than having opposed the Referendum at the time, and should be judged separately. A Remainer then might be an Overturner now, but has not changed position if they accept the Referendum results, because that was then and this is now. There might be a correlation between Remainers-then and Soft Exiters-now, and that's where it's useful to identify who was then a Remainer.
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It allows the conversation to move on from the question of EU membership.
Which is fine, if that is what one wants to do, but if one wants the UK to remain or rejoin the EU then Remainers must remain Remainers until Brexiteers wonder off to do something else.
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She is not a Remainer. She is a whole-hearted Brexiteer and will continue to be one. Nothing about her wants to stay in the European Union. What she was before the referendum is not relevant any more.
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I don't disagree with you that she is fully behind her espoused policy of leaving the EU in accordance with the expressed will of the British people.
It is unclear what her position would be if the opinion polls were running 60% for Remain.
As always I suspect that a Tory hasn't changed their mind on something important so much as they have realised that saying and doing something different leaves the Tory Party in power.
I don't think she enjoys the full trust and confidence of the pre-referendum Brexiteers because of her prior position. They suspect she is either a fair weather friend or working to bring down Brexit from within.
Perhaps more importantly if we move to a position where people are allowed to shift from being Remainers to Brexiteers then we are accepting that Britain will be leaving the EU and not re-joining. If one wants Britain to rejoin the EU then Remainers must be prepared to carry a grudge about it for decades to come.
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I don't think we get to choose on Theresa May's part whether she is to carry a grudge about it for decades. She is fully committed to carrying out what she regards as the democratic result of the referendum.
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But we get to decide how we label that. Pragmatic democrat or traitor. A bad Remainer or a New Brexiteer. Honourable or wretched. Right or wrong.
And through that label influence others.
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We do, but any label implying that there is any meaning now for her in her previous conviction is inaccurate.
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Part of her current advantage is that she is sufficiently in both camps to survive. Part of her problem is that her room for manouvre is limited because she is not fully trusted by either side.
And this sort of grudge keeping is exactly what I was talking about on Sunday.
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In my view the negative consequences of the inaccuracy of the label when applied to her, with its consequent dilutions of both the integrity of the labeller and the meaning of the label, outweigh any positive consequences in this context.
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It is good that at least one of us is not being corrupted by Brexit.