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Largely because linking direct to the FT causes you to hit the paywall. Going through Google should get you there, if you search for this.

But in any case, here's the first few paragraphs, following on from claims that it would cost £1.5Bn to set up Scotland with the institutes it would need:

Ministers in London have misled Scottish voters over how much it would cost to set up an independent government in Edinburgh, according to the man whose analysis underpins the Treasury’s case for Scotland remaining in the UK.

Patrick Dunleavy, politics professor at the London School of Economics, told the Financial Times the Treasury had manipulated his research to make the one-off costs of setting up a new government look ten times larger than they were likely to be.

His claims undermine part of the Treasury’s case for staying in the union, as both sides in the referendum battle are to unveil their contrasting claims about the economic costs and benefits of Scottish independence.

Prof Dunleavy said: “The Treasury’s figures are bizarrely inaccurate. I don’t see why the Scottish government couldn’t do this for a very small amount of money.”


Direct link to the article here, if you want to give that a go before trying the Google route.

Date: 2014-05-28 05:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
I agree the No campaign appears incompetent, counterproductive and, well, a bit daft. However...

The main quotes from this are from [twitter.com profile] pjdunleavy who has an, shall we say, interesting history when it comes to analysis, misrepresentation, etc?

I've butted heads with him a few times, including recently, one of his big bugbears is to try to debunk "Duverger's Law", and his principle method is to create a strawman version of stuff assemlbing things Duverger didn't say and then trying to prove they're wrong, if you point him at what Duverger actually said and observe that his figures seem to reinforce Duverger's work he changes to saying that there are lots of citations in Google Scholar for people saying what he says the Law is, etc.

I, obviously, have no clue who's correct. OTOH, while I do respect the man and think he's done a lot of good work, he is someone for whom you have to go double check things from because the prism he sees the world through is so radically different from mine.

Date: 2014-05-28 06:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
I heard Alexander (Danny) earlier saying it wasn't his figures they were using but someone else's. Also, I think he's unreliable, but he's a senior professor at the LSE, lots of others don't share my views. Britain does seem to have a bit of myopia about academia and who to consult as experts (see, for example, the BBC "debate" about WW1 and whether we should've joined, on the one side, a Tory Imperialist, on the other a Tory Isolationist, both eminent professors so that'll do, right?)

Date: 2014-05-28 06:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
Oh FFS, ok, yeah, that's stupid. I mean, I want No to win, but being disingenuous with figures is just daft.

Why are they concentrating on economics anyway? Same mistake Clegg made about Europe, concentrate on the long term stuff people care about not some disputed figure made by a speculative study.

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