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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2012-05-02 12:00 pm

Interesting Links for 02-05-2012

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Radical Honesty

[personal profile] thejeopardymaze 2012-05-04 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just about to type something like "Great, because what we really need is a generation of exhibitionists", and then I thought, "Wait, isn't this what too many people using the internet for these days, so what am I complaining about?".

[identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
What really sucks is that lots of rapists in the BDSM community have no idea at all that they are rapists. There isn't a lot of education out there about what is OK at a scene or a munch and some guys mistake being a dom and having a sub available means that they can do anything. Sometimes you meet newbies who have never even heard the term 'safe word."

If the people running scenes were more active in educating the people - particularly newbie dom men - who are invited it would probably cut down on a lot of sexual assault.

[identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It would help some, but there's a point where education has to be translated into taking claims that consent was ignored seriously.

[identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally agree.

But that's a much more difficult proposition.

Education within the community, particularly for newbies, would cut down on nonconsent issues very quickly. Once you had that issue dealth with you then you could work on the the long term issues of weeding out bad doms and empowering subs

[identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's similar to that TV Episodes site, but I've been using MyEpisodes.com for the past few years and find it very useful.

[identity profile] naath.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure why a US-based TV-listings site is interesting... (lots of UK folks have linked it, US people linking it makes more sense).


I'm sick of supposedly serious journalists claiming that marriage is superior to non-married cohabiting. Really fucking sick. I think they have the correlation the wrong way around on the break-up stats; but I also really don't fucking care - if your relationship sucks you should end it, and doing so shouldn't be something that draws social ostracisation.

[identity profile] naath.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:48 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, I watch US TV too... but I don't find knowing when it's going to be on in the US very useful.

[identity profile] naath.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ah right. I'm. Er. Too lazy to bother.

Although I want to watch GoT season 2; so maybe I should dig it our of the the internet sewer.

[identity profile] naath.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I read the books, so I'm not faffed about spoilers, but I like teh shiny moving peeectures.

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh... you've reached the point of "when can I start torrenting this" with GoT too?

Have you come across tvtorrents.com? It's a minor pain to get started but it really is very good.

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Similar but without adverts, complete season downloads available on season completion, and perhaps slightly better coverage of older shows (e.g. when I tried "Red Dwarf" it didn't have a page of its own -- though you could still easily find the torrents). It's also a closed tracker which encourages people to contribute -- that's not an issue for anything even half way modern.

Being honest though that site you linked to is OK and there's probably little or no benefit in you switching. Also it has wider coverage of things -- not limited to just TV and includes sports on TV.

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
where do you download your stuff from? legal, illegal, semi-legal?

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
"Unrealistic expectations of relationships are a scourge on society."

Yeah. I wonder what would happen if we had fewer stories about "our eyes met across a crowded room" and more about "and then we put in a lot of effort to understand what made each other happy, and as a reward, it worked really well"... :)

[identity profile] naath.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
See, that's a really nice message. But the way it was written made me too angry to get to that part... stupid story.

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no, I think the story was entirely "Baron so-and-so says MARRIAGE GOOD!" The idea that realistic expectations may be more useful that legally forcing everyone into unsuitable marriages I interpreted to be Andrew's gloss :)

[identity profile] woodpijn.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it was explicitly in the article.

"[Sir Paul] said celebrity magazines like Hello promoted "unrealistic expectations" about marriage, and people needed to understand the importance of working at relationships to make them work."

""We all know, all of us who have been in relationships - whether married or unmarried - for a long time... that the only way that they are made to work and the only way that they become really qualitatively good is by absolutely grinding away at it." (my bold)

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
"How Marvel took The Avengers from a throwaway reference in Iron Man to a record-breaking movie"

Oh, that's awesome, I hadn't realised it had been such an ad hoc opportunity, but I'm really impressed that they did manage to assemble a bunch of films that work individually, but aren't wasted if they don't manage to culminate in one super-film.

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
"Sleep cancels out obesity gene"

Although I seemed to have missed it if the article reported any evidence of that from the study: it claimed there was correlation, but I only saw speculation about causation.

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, I thought that - e.g. fat/obese folks often snore or have sleep apnea which reduces sleep quantity/quality...

[identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The other thing is that even if all the recommendations are sound, getting 9 hours of sleep per day would only improve the odds of not being fat. And last I heard, there isn't a single obesity gene.

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
See which parties voted the way that you would want them to.

Oh dear... it seems my favoured political party would be a lunatic in a box making decisions at random by tossing a coin. This agreed with me more than the next nearest political party (Lib Dem at 44%). Conservatives agreed with me more than Labour which was a surprise.

Then again some of the issue summaries were kind of surprising and rather tangential to what the actual votes were: e.g. "All smoking should be banned" was a vote on advertising and smoking in public places. "Legal Abortion should be limited as far as possible" was in fact a vote to reduce the term from 24 weeks to 12. The one about the "right to strike" was a vote about prison officers (actually I think maybe they should but I do think some professions it's just too dangerous for them to strike, the precedents for a police strike are not good).

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I fear that by phrasing the questions correctly you could write one of those such that the typical question answerer would agree with more or less whichever party you choose.

E.g. Reword the "all smoking should be banned" (which > 50% of people disagree with) to "smoking should not be allowed in some places" or (which > 50% of people agree with) and you've reverse people's political stance.

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure it does tell you that... it could be that it was set up to get us all to come out Lib Dem but to do so it had to go through quite a lot of contortions so on many votes that the average person would disagree with every party in British politics.

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair point.

[identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The highest I got, aside from the coin toss, was 47 % Lib Dem with SNP at 35 % (3rd with PC in between, not a lot of help given they don't stand in Scotland).

I got a measley 13 % for Labour, presumably because the current lot are a bunch of authoritarian war-mongering morons, which is quite depressing, especially as I got 28 % for the Tories :(

[identity profile] skington.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I got 60-odd% green, 56% LibDem, before the coin-tossing appeared. No way am I voting LibDem for a while, though, after they voted to privatise the NHS. The tories were marginally ahead of Labour, presumably on civil liberties grounds.

What's weird is how low down the SDLP were, given that they're supposedly a left-of-centre party.

[identity profile] andrewhickey.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The Lib Dems didn't vote to privatise the NHS, though -- as you will have seen from the fact that the NHS Act came into effect two months ago, and the NHS remains resolutely unprivatised. They voted for an Act that:

Ensures the Secretary of State has a responsibility to provide a good national health service

Bans any new NHS charges without an additional act of Parliament (thus stopping the Labour council in Manchester, where I live, from bringing in charges for using A&E, which they'd been planning to do)

Devolves decision-making to clinicians rather than administrators
Includes a statutory duty to minimise 'postcode lotteries' (trans activists I know are ecstatic about this one).

Puts a cap on the amount of money that a foundation trust can raise from private provision (a cap that wasn't there previously)

And actually *reverses* some of the privatisation Labour brought in, as well as making sure any future use of private providers must be decided not just on the basis of cost (as under Labour's legislation) but must take into account quality of service as well.

I read through the bill several times (unlike pretty much everyone I read making alarmist statements about it ending the NHS -- people with more mild criticisms, like Phil Hammond, who thinks it's a terrible bill but only the latest in a long line of such bad bils, tend to have actually read it, but the ones saying it privatises everything haven't) and found a lot in it that was bad, and that I disagree with, and that I would change if I could, but it absolutely doesn't privatise the NHS.

(My own one got 57% Lib Dem, coin toss, then I think the SNP and Plaid (even though I don't live in Scotland or Wales). Tories came slightly higher than Labour for the same reason as you.)

Northern Irish politics is weird in all sorts of ways -- while I got 57% Lib Dem, for example, I only got 11% Alliance, even though the Alliance party are officially allied with the Lib Dems.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What's weird is how low down the SDLP were, given that they're supposedly a left-of-centre party.

That's not weird at all. That's the deliberate result of a poll that entirely omits such issues as tax and income distribution and social equality, which one might consider quite important to left-leaning voters. These major reasons that one might vote for a leftish party aren't mentioned at all. Lest it be thought I am biased, these issues might also be considered important to right-wing voters, whom the poll likewise deprives of an accurate reflection of a significant element of their political stance. Result: everyone ends up in the centre, oh what a surprise. And that's even before you get to some of the interesting wording of the questions.

[identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It does seem to be very heavily biased towards human rights issues and how far the State should be allowed to intervene in people's lives and the legal system.

[identity profile] lpetrazickis.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the choice to count "neither agree nor disagree" answers as the opposite of having either opinion skews the weighting. Coin toss is 33%, NOT 50% if there are three choices.

50% Coin toss (really 33%)
28% LDem
24% UKIP
22% PC
19% Con
19% SNP

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha... that would explain it. If "neither" is a third option we'd expect coin toss to agree 33%. But how do they compare "neither" with a voting record (forgive me if this is already answered on the site).
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[personal profile] zz 2012-05-02 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Coin toss 50%
LDem 41%
Green 37%
SNP 35%
Con 33%
Lab 14%

what i want is a party that's unshakeably strong on personal freedom & human rights (after getting into power), economically centre or slightly left of, pro-nuclear, and slightly euroskeptic in the sense of "the EU is good and has its uses, but does it need to do all these things and why should it be an all-or-nothing if-you're-not-with-us-you're-against-us arrangement?".

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
unshakeably strong on personal freedom & human rights

That's what I call a "null policy" -- no party advocates the opposite but they all say the opposition is against it. Nobody is campaigning on being against personal freedom and human rights. Everybody is saying the other party is against it. Interpreted as something like "doesn't believe in ID cards" or "doesn't believe in stop and search powers for the police" it becomes meaningful though.

It's probably also worth thinking that if you put in only 4 "must have" policies which are actually policies where someone could sensibly take the opposite view (rather than things which everyone agrees on vociferously) then you need 2^4= 16 political parties to cover the set. We shouldn't expect to find a political party which agrees with our 4 most strongly held opinions which are not "obvious".

[identity profile] skington.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Any party that yells "terrorist! terrorist! terrorist!" and claims that Things are too Dire for the standard rule of law is, effectively, pretty piss-poor on personal freedom and human rights. The Labour Party, unfortunately, fits that description pretty well, as can the Tory party at times.

[identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

Also, complete failure to even consider the idea of evidence based drugs policy. Or indeed science-based policy on anything much, not that I'm bitter or anything...

[identity profile] steer.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you completely on those policies... however, someone supporting those policies would cite "freedom from the threat of violence".

Here's how I see it. If you ask an old-school socialist "are you in favour of personal freedom?" they might say "Sure, that's why I support a free-at-source health care and education system so that people are completely free to better themselves by having the training and medical help they need to maximise their potentials in life. If you asked the same question to a hardcore Libertarian-large-L they might say "Sure, that's why I'm against all forms of government and taxation so that people are free to spend their money in any way they like."

"Personal freedom" can support more or less any policy: "Ban smoking?" "I support your personal freedom to smoke" "Well, I support your personal freedom to breathe smoke free air."

So "personal freedom" isn't a great rallying cry from a politician for my money.

[identity profile] skington.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
If you can manage to balance the Orange Book and social-democratic tendencies of the LibDems, they're your best bet.
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[personal profile] zz 2012-05-02 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
apart from throwing the greens the occasional list vote, i've always voted libdem up to now. however, they were already the least worst rather than preferable choice for me re EU & nuclear, and then the coalition happened... in the case of edinburgh council, i'm not convinced party allegiance will make any of them not shambolic fuckwits. i'll need to look at the actual individuals i think.

[identity profile] spacelem.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. Apparently the Lib Dems are next at 48% (although there are a bunch of issues I don't understand properly and remained undecided on, which could possibly affect that score).

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda think the arrests of people alleged to have named the victim in the Ched Evans case might do more to reduce rape culture than the actual prosecutions and conviction.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah.

I think a lot of the outrage following the Ched Evans conviction is people looking at the facts and thinking to themselves "That's me."

Or at least "That could be me."

[identity profile] inamac.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I do hope that they're also looking at the dipstick who not only posted her name on his LJ but also ran a poll. (On reporting this LJ stated that they would only act if the victim herself reported it - as if she hadn't been abused enough.)

[identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I damn well hope so. I did a post that repeated many of the tweets I found with the #freeched hashtag on twitter here:
http://philmophlegm.livejournal.com/235723.html

I was genuinely shocked. And about a third of the people writing those tweets were women.

[identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That's horrific :( And sadly, I'm not surprised there were women joining in.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2012-05-03 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I had a look at the twitter feeds. I’m not sure which I found most disturbing, the women saying she deserved it and ought to have been expecting it or the men saying they’d done similar in the past.

I hope a large number of people who previously thought that behaviour like Ched Evan’s behaviour was okay might start believing it is the serious criminal offence it is.

[identity profile] peadarog.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Would love to try C# on my android. I hope somebody on XDA-Developers figures it out!

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"Radical Honesty - a step too far?"

That's really interesting. I think Jeff was exactly right when he said that radical honesty was too extremist to be a sensible lifestyle choice, but that it was seductive because it made us think about all the times we'd like to avoid lying but are afraid it will be impractical, when it can (often but not always) turn out to be useful.

However, I think there's a tendency to overcompensate. The first comment described someone who played the guitar, and everyone automatically told him he was great and he thought about becoming professional, and someone told him that he sucked.

Now, I think that person was sensible to give some accurate feedback. But I also think they were embarrassed to criticise against minor social norms, and hence in an almost self-parody exaggerated what they thought.

After all, they probably mean "suck" compared to a professional player, not compared to an average person (who probably can't play the guitar _at all_), so by suddenly shifting the basis of comparison, they're just making the guitar player defensive and less likely to listen.

It would presumably have been equally true but more accurate to say something like:

"You've picked up the basics but you're not of professional standard"

or "You've picked up the basics, but you would need to dedicatedly practice for several hours a day to approach professional standard."

or "You don't have the natural talent to ever be professional"

or "You're not outstanding in natural talent and don't have much dedication. You're not of professional standard, and I don't know whether or not you could be."

It's hard to combine tact and truth, and often impossible, but I don't think giving up is the correct long-term solution (even though it may be the only expedient option in the short term).