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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2017-07-18 12:00 pm

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Is Love Racist? The TV show laying our biases bare

[personal profile] jack 2017-07-18 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a weird tension here. I feel like, people *are* under an obligation to test out their boundaries and (probably) discover that "I don't fancy people of X race" was just a prejudice they get over.

But if they really try and really can't, sometimes you just can't control your sexual attraction. And you need to not make a big noise about it and write angry thinkpieces about "my prejudices are a natural law for everyone", and not rub people's faces in the fact you don't fancy them. But also, not force yourself to date people who have no attraction towards.

But I'm not sure if that's a reasonable compromise. Particularly in race; sexual attraction is really weird, but "only attracted to people of my own race" doesn't seem to be a thing (more attracted maybe, and "can't be bothered dating ignorant majority makes sense, but not as a "my orientation is....") But I don't want to pre-judge which orientations actually exist and which don't.
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Re: Is Love Racist? The TV show laying our biases bare

[personal profile] mlknchz 2017-07-18 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree; attraction is attraction...it's like saying gay men are misogynist simply because they don't find women sexually attractive.
Can we please leave people SOMETHING they won't be judged about?
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Re: Is Love Racist? The TV show laying our biases bare

[personal profile] fub 2017-07-19 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think I agree with you.
But the article also mentions people saying something along the lines of "south-east Asian women are more submissive, so I like them better" -- and I do think that such statements are problematic.
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Re: Is Love Racist? The TV show laying our biases bare

[personal profile] jack 2017-07-19 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
That seems to be something that *is* very racist. (Even if there are cultural differences, you can avoid being essentialist about that.)

I think maybe the problem is, everyone should generally be a lot less racist than they are now, but when I read articles about that, I feel like they're telling me to take it to the logical conclusion, and obliterate any not-completely-egalitarian sexual orientation. But actually they're just being emphatic, not necessarily precise.