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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2012-05-02 12:00 pm

Interesting Links for 02-05-2012

[identity profile] skington.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I got 60-odd% green, 56% LibDem, before the coin-tossing appeared. No way am I voting LibDem for a while, though, after they voted to privatise the NHS. The tories were marginally ahead of Labour, presumably on civil liberties grounds.

What's weird is how low down the SDLP were, given that they're supposedly a left-of-centre party.

[identity profile] andrewhickey.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The Lib Dems didn't vote to privatise the NHS, though -- as you will have seen from the fact that the NHS Act came into effect two months ago, and the NHS remains resolutely unprivatised. They voted for an Act that:

Ensures the Secretary of State has a responsibility to provide a good national health service

Bans any new NHS charges without an additional act of Parliament (thus stopping the Labour council in Manchester, where I live, from bringing in charges for using A&E, which they'd been planning to do)

Devolves decision-making to clinicians rather than administrators
Includes a statutory duty to minimise 'postcode lotteries' (trans activists I know are ecstatic about this one).

Puts a cap on the amount of money that a foundation trust can raise from private provision (a cap that wasn't there previously)

And actually *reverses* some of the privatisation Labour brought in, as well as making sure any future use of private providers must be decided not just on the basis of cost (as under Labour's legislation) but must take into account quality of service as well.

I read through the bill several times (unlike pretty much everyone I read making alarmist statements about it ending the NHS -- people with more mild criticisms, like Phil Hammond, who thinks it's a terrible bill but only the latest in a long line of such bad bils, tend to have actually read it, but the ones saying it privatises everything haven't) and found a lot in it that was bad, and that I disagree with, and that I would change if I could, but it absolutely doesn't privatise the NHS.

(My own one got 57% Lib Dem, coin toss, then I think the SNP and Plaid (even though I don't live in Scotland or Wales). Tories came slightly higher than Labour for the same reason as you.)

Northern Irish politics is weird in all sorts of ways -- while I got 57% Lib Dem, for example, I only got 11% Alliance, even though the Alliance party are officially allied with the Lib Dems.

[identity profile] nineveh-uk.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What's weird is how low down the SDLP were, given that they're supposedly a left-of-centre party.

That's not weird at all. That's the deliberate result of a poll that entirely omits such issues as tax and income distribution and social equality, which one might consider quite important to left-leaning voters. These major reasons that one might vote for a leftish party aren't mentioned at all. Lest it be thought I am biased, these issues might also be considered important to right-wing voters, whom the poll likewise deprives of an accurate reflection of a significant element of their political stance. Result: everyone ends up in the centre, oh what a surprise. And that's even before you get to some of the interesting wording of the questions.

[identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com 2012-05-02 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It does seem to be very heavily biased towards human rights issues and how far the State should be allowed to intervene in people's lives and the legal system.