andrewducker: (Jesus!)
andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2008-02-13 09:22 am

You remember what now?

Here is a funny-because-it's-true piece on memory, perception and free will. It's well worth a read, just to remind yourself how things _really_ work :->

[identity profile] likeneontubing.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
If you mean "our conscious mind" then no.
how not?

we say to the mind that we need decision
the mind decides
tells us.

ie the mind has still made the decision based on our likes/preferences etc.

and then we can override it.

ie i want to eat now
but i shouldn't eat now because i'm having a big tea later

[identity profile] likeneontubing.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, i think so. but i don't think this is any great trickery. i think it's simply the way brains work. you made a choice based on previous assumptions/feelings etc. you can override it with a more logical choice if you wish... ie i will eat later not now. but mostly you are happy with the original choice.

i just don't get the conspiracy he's making it out to be?

[identity profile] likeneontubing.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
exactly! it's all about training your mind to think in certain ways. i just didn't realise people didn't know that hehe
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[personal profile] drplokta 2008-02-13 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This may be a bad analogy, because if you treat an actual army as somewhere where a command issued from above is slavishly obeyed, you're also in for a nasty shock.

[identity profile] pennski.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Now you see, this is what last night's Horizon programme should have been addressing and wasn't.

In other news, the Exploratorium is staffed by really cool people like Pat Murphy and Ellen Klages - so I'm not surprised it's a really cool place.