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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2024-05-09 12:00 pm
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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2024-05-13 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
It would be a good thing for the country I think if Forbes were successful at this. She's one of the few Scottish politicians who has a focus on growing the economy rather than spending devolved budgets and both the country and the independence movement would benefit from the Scottish economy growing faster over the long term.

I also think that the political plan of trying to persuade Scots to vote for independence so that the economy will grow faster and / or in a more equitable way has probably run its course. Gut feel is that to move from 45%+ support to 55%+ support for independence people will need to see Scotland's growth rate at least equal England's or if not the growth rate some of the leading indicators like new business creation rates, inward investment and so on.

I think Forbes position of personally disagreeing with aspects of social policy that are settled but not making any moves to change those policy areas is one folks should be able to live with.

People are obviously entitled to decide which policy areas are priorities for them and what and who they are prepared to trade to advance their own policy interests or rights-based activism but for me a focus on economic growth to the benefit of the the one in ten people who are still living in significant poverty in Scotland is a bit overdue.

I also think it would be a mistake for the more progressive end of the policy debate to take an ultra-purist approach on this. There is a risk that they discover that positions that they believe are settled turn out not to be that settled or that enough people have different top priorities to them and are prepared to make different compromises and trades. If people who disagree with social progressives are unable to play any meaningful role in politics alongside social progressives whilst holding but not acting on socially conservative views those people may as well make different friends and try and test the nation to see if the nation is prepared to make social progressiveness a priority issue or would pick social conservativism. I gi e you the modern Republican Party in the USA as an example And I think that Scotland, some parts of it in particular, might turn out to be more socially conservative than we appreciate.
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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2024-05-14 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The lovely thing about PR, of course, is that there's space for multiple parties that can then work together on some issues and not on others.

Yes, but I sometimes think the way the independence issue shapes party politics in Scotland interacts with the MMP system we use to elect MSPs limits the scope for political parties to differentiate themselves enough along other axis.

I'd rather we used STV in large constituencies so we could favour or not individual candidates more easily,
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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2024-05-14 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)

They would - al though I think Australia has had some unhappy experiences with them becoming too unwieldy for practical use.