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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2023-01-18 12:00 pm
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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2023-01-18 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The UK government's arguements were much less sophisticated than I thought they would be. I feel bad for them.
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[personal profile] conuly 2023-01-18 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
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It seemed, after further patient waiting on the part of the visitors, that the husbands and children[58] could not abide porridge—to use the expressive language of the district, “they ’eaved at it.”

So much for "poor children are just happy to get food, they'll eat whatever you put in front of them", huh.

But what's all that at the start of the link, with hearthstone and red ochre and doorsteps?
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2023-01-18 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Hearthstone from the reference is a grade of stone used for doorsteps, I'd guess it to be a granite.

It's important to keep up appearances in the community. Throughout Europe, at least the northern parts (IDK about Scandinavia), having the front step be spotless was a sign of a respectable household. In richer households, the maid does it; there's a terrific painting by Edward Penny of a maid smirking as she soaks an obvious pest by spinning her mop to wet him. In other households, if your status mattered, if respectability mattered, if being perceived as middle-class mattered, the mistress of the house cleaned it herself. If you think of the condition of the streets at that time, having a clean doorstep was a big signal about the cleanliness of the house inside: that someone cared and had the time to keep it up.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51783000/jpg/_51783170_1.jpg

The ochre would be pretty, and it's an additional layer of labor and aspiration or conformity (the note about her home village indicating that it was just Done That Way there), but ochre would be tracked in, making More Work for Mother. That would be done fresh every day.
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[personal profile] channelpenguin 2023-01-18 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I grew up (in Scotland).on porridge (made with water and salt) and still love it. Comfort food. But historically, I think in England, oats were seen as fit only for horses!
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2023-01-18 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny thing though is that I'm English and love it while the other half is a Scot and hates it.
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[personal profile] channelpenguin 2023-01-19 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Lol. Well, taste is very individual
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[personal profile] conuly 2023-01-18 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the things the author takes pains to point out is that when you're as overworked as these women, the porridge is likely to be burned, and it's really asking a lot to demand that poor people feed their families burnt porridge every day, with definitely nothing like butter or milk.

Bread comes to the house ready-made, so it's already palatable and less work.