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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2018-01-29 12:00 pm

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Re: Children learning patriarchy

[personal profile] alithea 2018-01-29 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Possibly around that age, I'm not the best judge! I think a sense of entitlement specifically towards women is quite a nuanced gender stereotype for a toddler though - they presumably feel quite entitled to everyone's attention ;)
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Re: Children learning patriarchy

[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2018-01-29 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
My observation of toddlers is that very many of them struggle to see that other human beings are human beings too or that all human beings should be treated with respect even when one of the human beings involved in the discussion should have had a nap and a biscuit an hour ago.

Most of them grow up to mostly manage treating other human beings with a base level of respect - at least when other people are watching. A few who struggle to get it manage to pretend that they believe other humans are humans. Again, at least when other people are watching. Some never understand, or care.

One of the things that gender puts in to the mix is that it facilitates the creation of a group of humans who are not *fully* human. But, kids are pretty willing and able to apply "not fully human" to just about everyone one if left to their own devices.

(Which I think gets to Alithea's point about adult intervention, and when that happens and when it doesn't.)
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Re: Children learning patriarchy

[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2018-01-29 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I am saddened by how quickly and thoroughly kids pick up gendered notions of roles and responsibilities. Even with parents who are trying to actively work against it.