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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2018-01-14 12:00 pm
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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2018-01-15 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
I read a really good book on the Homeric epics last year. Lots of good stuff on the origin and what happened to the stories after they were created.

Buggered if I can remember the name of it off the top of my head.

I'm looking forward to the translation mentioned above.
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[personal profile] danieldwilliam 2018-01-15 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be splendid thank you.
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[personal profile] anef 2018-01-17 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I got the book for Christmas and I'm very much looking forward to reading it. In the Iliad and other literature it is very clear that Odysseus is crafty and clever, and in many ways not at all an ideal hero figure except that of course he is courageous and a mighty warrior. I'm looking forward to the translation reflecting that ambiguity.

I've always been fond of the Robert Graves retelling, Homer's Daughter, which says well, what if the Odyssey were written by a woman?

A Conservative voter explains themselves

[personal profile] j_v_lynch 2018-01-15 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that conservative explained themselves very well, especially if the goal was to explain how they are not selfish.
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Re: A Conservative voter explains themselves

[personal profile] anef 2018-01-17 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't particularly seem selfish, so much as blithely ignoring the fact that Tory policies do not in fact "help the poor and achieve a more harmonious, industrious and cohesive society". They seem to believe that Toryism will magically achieve these aims, completely ignoring the fact that it has so far signally failed to do so. We need some evidence based political thinking.