As I've said before, any highlighting of racial colour is automatic discrimination in my book. The way to deal with the race card is to make it go away by making it a non-issue.
The red, white and blue colour of the Union Jack have nothing to do with racial colour or stereotyping. By introducing black as the fourth colour, and directly linking it with the UKs 'multi-cultural' diversity, this introduces the idea of race where it has previously never been thought of. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Turner has a hidden agenda, and is trying to stir up racial hatred in the UK. I think it's nothing short of disgraceful.
This isn't flag-flying patriotism, BTW. I don't give a shit about the colours of the flag - turn it turquoise, green and orange for all I care. But do not treat it as 'art', or a 'statement', or a 'declaration'. Do not add black to it, and mention it as being directly linked to race, or 'multi'-cultural' backgrounds.
I for one, would like to hear the opinion of Denise Lewis (her picture is used by the BBC with the article pertaining to this) and other prominent non-white people of the UK community. Does anyone who would be indicated as being part of the UKs new-found multi-culturalism actually want this? Have they been asked?
I think it's shit-stirring of the worst kind, where none was needed. Ive said it before, and I'll stick with it to my dying day - the way to beat the stupid, the discriminatory, the intolerant, is to ignore them. Treat anyone and everyone, regardless of background, equal, and don't empower groups like the BNP any more than they already are.
On another note: why spend money changing something that don't need changing (*cough* Consignia *cough*) when there are plenty of more worthwhile things the money could be spent on? This kind of thing is really quite expensive.
I must say I had an interesting revelation while walking along Bloomsbury in London.
I was walking on group where my ancestors belonged. Not just the Richards who showed up in the 1700s or the Chislet's and Haultain's who showed up earlier, but this was where those people had some from. (Okay, one branch is German, but I'm leaving them out.)
My city is not exactly brimming over with First Nation's people and I don't know a lot, but it has been so firmly imprinted on me that I was not here first, there were others before me who were treated badly in the past and who should be respected and remembered that it stunned me to *not* be part of an invading force, no matter how far removed.
I thank England for that. It is something I must remember. It also made me giggle at the Bill Reid totem pole in the British Museum (I can't get AWAY from poles. Grin.) And I believe I have a better appreciation for the friendship pole that was recently installed near my workplace at the university.
Cheers,
Katja, who seems to be good at writing long "comments"
No sarcasm, here, I honestly think that flags should just be bar-coded and left at that. I've never understood or been comfortable with all the silly general symbolism. As if you can represent all the people in a country or a country with these images. Just barcode it and let the flag be an impersonal identifying label so each person can represent themself and, in turn, represent the country for whatever it is today.
The part of me thats British to the core and gets all misty eyed when thinking of Trafalgar, Rourkes Drift and other great moments of our history, really wants to huff and puff about this.
But sadly I find it too silly to get worked up over :o)
I actually think that's asthetically pleasing, but other than that I don't see the point. Seems like it'd just create a lot of paperwork and silliness.
Especially since the creation of the flag preceded the racism, I thought. I mean, I don't know when the flag was created, but the racism as we know it today really does stem from the colonisation and slavery of the 1800's, I'd think the flag existed long before that.
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The red, white and blue colour of the Union Jack have nothing to do with racial colour or stereotyping. By introducing black as the fourth colour, and directly linking it with the UKs 'multi-cultural' diversity, this introduces the idea of race where it has previously never been thought of. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Turner has a hidden agenda, and is trying to stir up racial hatred in the UK. I think it's nothing short of disgraceful.
This isn't flag-flying patriotism, BTW. I don't give a shit about the colours of the flag - turn it turquoise, green and orange for all I care. But do not treat it as 'art', or a 'statement', or a 'declaration'. Do not add black to it, and mention it as being directly linked to race, or 'multi'-cultural' backgrounds.
I for one, would like to hear the opinion of Denise Lewis (her picture is used by the BBC with the article pertaining to this) and other prominent non-white people of the UK community. Does anyone who would be indicated as being part of the UKs new-found multi-culturalism actually want this? Have they been asked?
I think it's shit-stirring of the worst kind, where none was needed. Ive said it before, and I'll stick with it to my dying day - the way to beat the stupid, the discriminatory, the intolerant, is to ignore them. Treat anyone and everyone, regardless of background, equal, and don't empower groups like the BNP any more than they already are.
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Heh. My response... do you see any BLUE people running around the UK? Or bright RED? Uh-huh.
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About the UK
I was walking on group where my ancestors belonged. Not just the Richards who showed up in the 1700s or the Chislet's and Haultain's who showed up earlier, but this was where those people had some from. (Okay, one branch is German, but I'm leaving them out.)
My city is not exactly brimming over with First Nation's people and I don't know a lot, but it has been so firmly imprinted on me that I was not here first, there were others before me who were treated badly in the past and who should be respected and remembered that it stunned me to *not* be part of an invading force, no matter how far removed.
I thank England for that. It is something I must remember. It also made me giggle at the Bill Reid totem pole in the British Museum (I can't get AWAY from poles. Grin.) And I believe I have a better appreciation for the friendship pole that was recently installed near my workplace at the university.
Cheers,
Katja, who seems to be good at writing long "comments"
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But sadly I find it too silly to get worked up over :o)
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Especially since the creation of the flag preceded the racism, I thought. I mean, I don't know when the flag was created, but the racism as we know it today really does stem from the colonisation and slavery of the 1800's, I'd think the flag existed long before that.