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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2012-06-14 12:00 pm

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-06-15 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think doing something voluntary definitely CAN be helpful. The problem seems to be, the government assumes there are millions of unfilled jobs out there that people could get if they just cleaned up their act and tried hard enough. But there doesn't seem any evidence for that: where are these shelf-stacking jobs desperately looking for an employee, but unable to find someone who can do it? It seems massively more likely that there aren't enough jobs (sample evidence: companies are laying people off because there's a depression).

So the policy generally seems to be "trick people into doing one of these schemes as punishment, and hope they give up on getting any benefits or get a job by sheer force of will".

I don't think it's NEVER useful. Just that it seems more harmful than helpful. (And has a lot of secondary bad effects.) Placing people to do charity work that would otherwise go undone is a good start -- it's still possible to cause serious problems, but if it works it's actually providing some positive improvement to society. (A good indication that this is what's happening would be that people who are ALREADY doing volunteer work or unpaid internships, especially ones related to their core skills, were rewarded and praised, rather than villified and punished.) It seems workfare does vary a lot by local region: if some ARE doing it better, that's a good thing (although it's been such a disaster, I'm not sure it's worth saving).