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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2012-03-07 11:00 am

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[identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is if the athletes were actual students at the school for the purpose of learning and had been enrolled in a normal process I'd be against anyone at the school looking at their Facebook. but, since they are essentially employees (and well paid ones at that!)they have the right to sign away their privacy.

After all, they could simply pick a school that won't ask for their Facebook password. Hell, maybe some schools could use that as a recruiting tactic!

I really don't think the coaches will be looking through to see what comments the players are making. I think they'll mostly be looking to make sure there isn't a picture of the kid standing next to a Ferrari.

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost certainly am being too idealistic here, but I don't think it's ok for employers either.

I wrote a long post and deleted it because I started rambling, but I think "it's ok to give people readily abusable power because you trust them never to take advantage of it, even if nothing's stopping them" and "it's ok, if people want it, the free market will provide it" are arguments that seem insidiously reasonable, but don't actually work in real life...?

[identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if you offer someone something of value worth well over $100k, you have the right to ask them for something in return - particularly if their fuck ups could cost your organization millions and millions of dollars.

Would you trust an 18 year old not to fuck up your $20 million a year sports program without oversight?

[identity profile] cartesiandaemon.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I know what you're saying, but it seems to me there's some things you'd usually want (eg. "acting in an an ethical and professional manner, even at events only tangently related to your employment") and some things that are usually offensive and unethical to ask for (eg. "a permanent tap on your home phone with no accountability over who listens to it").

And it seems like, to me, getting a social networking password is like the phone tap, not like acting professional. But I think many people assume it is a little thing that doesn't matter much. So to be persuaded I don't need fifty-seven million arguments why "assuming it's a little thing that's obviously helpful and doesn't matter, isn't it fair to require it", I need an argument why it's a little thing, rather than a circumvension of anti-wiretapping laws...?

[identity profile] bart-calendar.livejournal.com 2012-03-07 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
At the end of the day if I was giving someone $100,000 in free money while knowing that if they fucked up I could lose $20 million in money if they did something stupid I'd want to tap their phones, read their facebooks, give them bodyguards who could report back to me, etc...

I don't think that the phone tap or the facebook passwords are little things. I do, however, think, that universities have the right to protect themselves and if you give a giant amount of money to someone they can sign away their general rights - if they want to - in exchange for the cash.

Obviously they should understand this before they take the $100k - but if you take a hundred thousand dollars in exchange for letting your facebook be monitored I think you've made a good deal.

Fuck it, if someone wanted to pay me $100k to monitor my facebook for four years I'd take the money.