[identity profile] anef.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Looking forward to the "crime, poverty, pollution and monolingualism" when we go to Norway and Sweden later this month.

[identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
$3,000,000 home theater. That's enough argument for a higher top tax rate.

[identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
it used to be something like 90% after you earned your first $250,000. I don't think that's extreme.

[identity profile] xquiq.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Taxing anyone at 90% is insane. Why create an economy based on reward & incentives, then apply some sort of a bizarre communist ethic to the upper middle classes? Effectively you're saying 'you can earn this much and no more' (unless you're rich enough to afford to move to a tax haven).

Also, if you're talking about the individual, there aren't that many people who earn that much, so it's not going to solve poverty. If you're talking about households, it's probably still not a huge chunk, except that there could be two people working their asses off to hit that figure: depending on where you live (& I'm thinking UK equivalent), it may be extremely comfortable, but I'm not even sure it would be considered 'wealthy' as a household income.

[identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have a problem with the government keeping 90% after the first $250K. There's still an incentive to work, and plenty to live on. People making that much aren't really in it just for the money, they're in it to win.

[identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
my work ethic arguments are based around the fact that a $250K executive is not working 10 times harder than a $25K schoolteacher.

[identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't believe that. And strongly disbelieve that.

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Leaving aside the question of equivalence...

[identity profile] 0olong.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Is there something inherently wrong with saying 'you can earn this much and no more', do you think?

[identity profile] eatsoylentgreen.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
and no deductions, no way no how

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think if you decide, as the US Constitution does, to have untrammelled free speech, then the decision to order the removal of the billboard is incorrect. It is unconstitutional and changing one aspect of the constitution in isolation unbalances the system of rights and duties that the constitution creates.

I think on balance I applaud his entry to the debate on parental rights and gender roles whilst thinking that he is probably wrong.

[identity profile] 0olong.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's really not all that untrammelled, though. There are various classes of 'speech' that the state is allowed to interfere with.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
How I wished I lived in a small, highly skilled energy rich democracy with a left-wing consensus.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I have my passport, my letter of introduction from President for Life Connery and my time machine. I've learned all the words to Flower of Scotland and The People's Flag.

All set and ready to go.

See you on the other side.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This has reminded me of one of the few times I came close to getting detention at school.

In my economics class we had two particular girls. One, L, was very cool, left-wing intellectual slightly gothic.

L was putting forward a (probably) Marxist critique of some element of neo-classical economics. M was outraged. “Do you really believe that?” L said she thought it was an interesting point of view and she probably did believe it. “You, you, you, COMMUNIST, you” spluttered M.

“Now, now,” said our teacher, “there’s no need to insult anyone.”

L leant forward and very coolly said “I am a communist, why on earth would you think I would find that insulting.”

I laughed so much I had to cover my head with my blazer and was nearly sent out of the room.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know what happened to her.

I'm not frantically googling her and looking for her on Facebook.

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2011-06-08 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
My Modern Studies teacher (closest I did to economics) was a communist. Most of Higher Mod Studs was a protracted rant about the damage done by Thatcherism and unfettered global capitalism.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's the syllabus for Higher Modern Studies isn't it?

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
If only.

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