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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2010-12-01 11:01 am
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[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
In fairness (hah, see what I did there?) the part I have a problem with is not what's being paid but how. Generating a society where it's expected and acceptable to run-up astronomical debts that no one ever reasonably expects them to pay off is... well, look at us. Although the ins and outs of the system the NUS proposes are stupid, that's not really something I personally concern myself with (a) because the NUS have always been wankers, what else is new and (b) because they're never actually going to be making the policies.

Either way, my student debt currently goes up by about £40 per month and since graduating several years ago I've paid off about £6 exactly £8 of it. And without any '30 year respite' I'll be paying it off for the rest of my life. Now with that kind of shadow over my head, why should I care if I get into other sorts of debts? It's not like I earn enough to get even a small loan to get rid of my student overdraft (I tried).

This isn't just about the physical amount of money being paid - that money has got to come from somewhere regardless. It's about the mood that it sets, the culture that it creates. Student loans have created a culture where every educated adult starts their adult life with tens of thousands of pounds worth of debt, and the poorer you started, the more debt you finish with. Where to from there?
Edited 2010-12-01 12:13 (UTC)
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[identity profile] akicif.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and quite. (I had been about to waste time wondering if the NUS proposal was going to try and "retrieve" money from graduates of non-UK institutions, when I was saved by your points (a) and (b) above).

Actually, I wonder how quickly Drs Mckeith, G and Paisley, I, for example, would admit their doctorates were fake if the alternative was to be taxed an extra thousand a year or so....

ETA: adverb, dammit!
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[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2010-12-01 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
because the NUS have always been wankers, what else is new and (b) because they're never actually going to be making the policies.

*snigger* oh so true.... but some segments will see them as the "voice" of students. Not anyone with any sense mind you.