Yeah, I think a lot of the arguments here happen in the interface between "We shouldn't tell people that their experiences of X are invalid" and "We should charge people with the crime of X", where people think that if you do (a) you have to follow it up with (b).
Yeah - I think part of that comes from different implications. I'm generalising somewhat here, but to a man "X is rape" means "I could be charged with rape for doing X", because that's the context in which men and rape tend to be associated. When they hear people opening up new things they hadn't realised they could be charged with rape for, it tends to then trigger a negative reaction.
Without wishing to conflate legality with morality again, I don't recommend lying for sex in any case.
I appreciate you're male, and I assume Joe is from the spelling of hir name, but I'm not particularly interested in a conversation about rape from the point of view of people who might be accused of it. My original comment was about victims' experiences.
Very true - that's a typical context. Misrepresenting yourself is such a broad thing - if I fib about my salary, does that matter? If I exaggerate my height online, will that be held against me?
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andrewducker) wrote2010-07-22 12:00 pm
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I have a strong disconnect between the two, and I sometimes run into difficulty when I forget that some people think I consider them the same.
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I appreciate you're male, and I assume Joe is from the spelling of hir name, but I'm not particularly interested in a conversation about rape from the point of view of people who might be accused of it. My original comment was about victims' experiences.
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