[identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I resent social norms that the media present.

I understand that what I'm about to say will incur a lot of difference of opinion.

I fear, that it showed that its okay to come onto someone sexually, despite their protests. I fear that it showed that this behaviour is associated with being admired, feisty and intelligent.

I wish that the media was more responsible.

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't think that Amy's behaviour was being portrayed as okay. I sort of feel as though it's the people who thought that it was who have a problem.

[identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I've copied this from Wikipedia, but the fear comes from Bandura's Bobo Dolls:

"In this experiment three groups of children saw a film which showed the adult attacking an inflatable doll with a stick. The doll was thrown across the room, sat on, punched and kicked. Bandura provided three alternative endings to the film:

Group A - Saw only the doll being hit. Group B - Saw the adult being praised and rewarded for hitting the doll. Group C - Saw the adult being punished for hitting the doll.

When the children had seen the film, they were given the same doll. Bandura observed their behaviour which showed that groups A and B imitated the aggressive behaviour they had witnessed, while group C were less aggressive."

I fear, that in this case the episode was similar to Group A and because there were no repercussions, it sends the message that this behaviour is okay to be repeated.

I know adults aren't children and can make up their own minds, Dr Who is a kids show (as Andy tells me a lot despite my being aghast and infuriated!)



I wonder if the people who think its okay, would welcome it to happen to them, and if so, are they not realising that not everyone would enjoy it?
Edited 2010-05-25 13:57 (UTC)

[identity profile] zornhau.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you remember early Torchwood where one of the characters used alien tech as a date rape drug?

[identity profile] zornhau.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank your lucky stars.

As far as I could gather, it was OK for the character to do this because he was bi and using it to seduce straight couples.

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God, let's not even start with Torchwood.

[identity profile] zornhau.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, we agree on something!

Hugs all round.

Oh, hang on, now I have to turn myself in to the police...

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, taking it from that kids' point of view she sort of was punished, or at least given a stern talking to and made to see the error of her ways (which I think was a proportional response given that I at least am prepared to view her transgression on a continuum of badness). She was denied the thing she wanted and forced to face up to the thing she was afraid of. The equivelant of a child caught eating illicit sweets having the sweets taken away and replaced with a plate of brocolli which then must be eaten. Now kids aren't necessarily going to understand the value of that on a conscious level right now but I don't think non-sociopathic children are incapable of understanding the concept that when a thing is taken away from you it probably is for the best even if you really really wanted it.

[identity profile] meaningrequired.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember the aftermath well, so that is reassuring!

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the aftermath was the next episode.