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andrewducker) wrote2009-04-25 04:45 pm
andrewducker) wrote2009-04-25 04:45 pm
Speeding Fines
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octopoid_horror let me know about the Finnish system of administering speeding fines:KPH over the speed limit x daily salary.
So if you're 10KPH over the speed limit and earn hundreds of thousands of pounds a year, then you're in for quite a large fine.
Apparently this is how all reasonable sized fines work in Finland - they're expressed in days of pay.
I'm in favour.
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And people often cross the rooad when you overtake on these duel carriageways? No.
"And the difference between your deliberately going 20 over and accidentally going 23 isn't that big a deal"
Sadly because Andy Ducker likes to get people to post on his LJ and not actually post legitimate comment, he didn't mention that all these details were readily available on the finnish governmental website which I just looked at. And the difference between 20 and 23 KPH? Well.... a business man just got a mention in their equivilent of th house of commons. You see this fine actually doesnt apply until you have 20KPH over the limit. Until then, it is a 110 Euro fine. So because he was 2 more KPh over the limit, instead of 110... he was charged 118,000 Euros. Now how is THAT fair exactly?
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I suspect you are working from a deeply *different* theory of motorised travel than I am.
Is it nice in 1930, where you live?
Now how is THAT fair exactly?
You appear to once again be deliberately ignoring my point: Fees dependent on the ability of the criminal to pay are more fair than set fees, even if the specifics aren't quite to our liking.
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I AGREE that means paying is better than fixed fines. Do I have to repeat myself in every single thread with you? My problem is that the finnish scheme is utterly fucked up and actually worse than the UK scheme due to the way it is implemented.
"Is it nice in 1930, where you live?"
Keep those strawman arguments going; they are working so well for you right now....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-fine
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People cross the road while I change lanes about as often as they cross the road while I check the speedometer.
Perhaps this is a North America thing. Our roads have a lot of lanes. There's plenty of jaywalking on 4-lane and even 6-lane streets in Toronto.
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By this point Andy hadn't been near his computer for four hours, because he'd been off having dinner with his girlfriend, and then gone to bed.
If you want information then google for it yourself rather than blaming me for not spoonfeeding it to you.
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But I also write about stuff I find interesting. And I never deny people information, or deliberately write things that leave out information. I'm underinformed sometimes (and I always appreciate being set right in those cases), but I don't set out to misinform.
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I opened my email last night, noticed 45 new comments on this thread and decided to go to bed rather than end up angrily erplying to anything. I know what I'm like - I over-read what other people say and then snap at them rather than taking a deep breath. It's a very bad habit of mine :->