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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2009-01-29 04:43 pm

Government announces new ISP legislation

"Our response to the consultation on peer-to-peer file sharing sets out our intention to legislate, requiring ISPs to notify alleged infringers of rights (subject to reasonable levels of proof from rights- holders) that their conduct is unlawful," said the report. "We also intend to require ISPs to collect anonymised information on serious repeat infringers (derived from their notification activities), to be made available to rights-holders together with personal details on receipt of a court order."


I'd like to see some detail on the word "reasonable" there...

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[identity profile] the-locster.livejournal.com 2009-01-29 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeh but isn't written law littered with the word 'reasonable'? As in proof beyond reasonable doubt. If memory serves I think 'reasonable' in law means reasonable by the standards of any right minded person - which is kinda defining one fuzzy concept in terms of another. I could be wrong though, I'm not a legal expert.

[identity profile] andlosers.livejournal.com 2009-01-29 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched the Digital Britain report being discussed in Parliament, and I gotta say, I think it's appalling. Compared to what the Obama administration is talking about, we're going to be left in the Internet dark ages over here. Traffic shaping? A broadband tax? Fuck off.

[identity profile] cairmen.livejournal.com 2009-01-29 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a proposal, not a definite, so no need to worry yet. And it's still better then Three Strikes by a long way. Even so, fer fuck's sake.

[identity profile] derumi.livejournal.com 2009-01-29 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Just allege all your customers are potential bit copiers, send them a form letter, send their anonymized and off-peak information off to the government, and take a nap.

[identity profile] bracknellexile.livejournal.com 2009-01-29 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
From the article above: The Government said that it would soon begin consultation on the proposed new law.

From the government comment just the other day: Mr Lammy [Intellectual Property minister] said legislation would be too complex.

"We can't have a system where we're talking about arresting teenagers in their bedrooms," he told The Times newspaper.


WTF?!?!

[identity profile] lebeautemps.livejournal.com 2009-01-29 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
In Law, the word "reasonable" is a problem for the defendant in my view.
The Reasonable Man was essentially a cartoon character in my head when I sat my civil law exams - he can be imbued with all sorts of characteristics which means that you never quite know where you stand, tbh.