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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2005-11-25 08:15 am

Responsibility

This is inspired by the comment here, where [livejournal.com profile] ladysysiphus says "If you have consumed enough alcohol to impair your judgement, I believe you then have to take at least some responsibility for putting yourself in a position where something like this might happen."

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[identity profile] yonmei.livejournal.com 2005-11-25 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd certainly never get drunk around you.


You could do so in perfect safety. While it's been discussed on my journal, I do not actually believe that the people who have been claiming that a drunk person deserves all they get deserve themselves to be raped while too drunk to resist and see if they like being told their consent can be assumed. I don't believe anyone deserves to be raped, nor that anyone's consent should just be assumed to exist, no matter how drunk they are - not even if that's exactly what they've been arguing for themselves.

[identity profile] yonmei.livejournal.com 2005-11-26 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is, as I've repeatedly said, exactly how I feel as well.

Yet you've been repeatedly arguing that if a man is accused of rape with a woman who is drunk and incapable, his unsupported word that she was conscious and consenting when he had sex with her is sufficient to clear him. So, plainly, that's not how you feel, and trying to claim you do is rank hypocrisy.