Responsibility

[andrewducker]

This is inspired by the comment here, where ladysysiphus says "If you have consumed enough alcohol to impair your judgement, I believe you then have to take at least some responsibility for putting yourself in a position where something like this might happen."

[Poll #619684]

Comments

[yonmei.livejournal.com]

Very tricky one. I'm stuck in exactly the same situation where one person claims I gave it to him, and I claim I didn't. It's down to a jury to examine circumstance and decide who is more believable.

Ah. Double standard, then. You're arguing that the rapist should be presumed innocent, but that the mugger shouldn't. Otherwise you would have to argue that the mugger should be let go free - just as you argued that the rapist should be let go free. In both cases, the victim is drunk and the "alleged criminal" is claiming the victim consented.

Oh, you may be interested to know that the CPS is demanding a report into the case that was dropped.

Someone else already said that, on the Thread That Is Eating My Journal.

[andrewducker]

Not a double standard. In the example I gave above, I'm claiming that I _didn't_ give consent. In the rape case, she said she didn't know if she gave consent or not.

If I have no memory of consent, and he says that I did consent, then I can't see any answer than to say that he's innocent of mugging me (lacking bruises, witnesses, etc).

[andrewducker]

And my apologies, you clearly said "so drunk you can't remember", and I missed it while reading. My stupid fault.