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Re: 5.

[personal profile] calimac 2025-08-07 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
You did write, "if you believe that AGI will 'inevitably' wipe out humanity," and it wasn't clear that "you" meant "a person" and not "me, calimac."

Second point: it's less than a niggle. If you (a person) take an action that you believe will result in the death of a human, and especially if you approve and encourage this result, then if the person does die as a result that is clearly murder. I suspect that even if they don't die, it's still attempted murder. (It doesn't have to be direct: setting up a Rube Goldberg or Heath Robinson contraption with the intention of killing somebody with it isn't "direct" but it's equally culpable.) The people being discussed in the post are not only advocating, but undertaking and promoting, actions which they believe will result in the imminent extinction of the human race. To call this anything less than a plan for murder would be grotesque; genocide or other such words might be even better.
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Re: 5.

[personal profile] channelpenguin 2025-08-07 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed I did. I should have use "one" but that has fallen out of casual use in English (but not in German!). Apologies.

Yes, genocide is a better word. By niggle, I mean that it was not truly clear to me that ALL those people are all advocating for the genocide of humanity. But certainly some are. So I meant that for me to quibble over me finding no explicit mention was "a niggle" not that the fact that some people have effectively genocidal plans is "a niggle"! Because that is NOT. And I DO believe that at at least some people have such plans.
Edited 2025-08-07 08:22 (UTC)
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Re: 5.

[personal profile] bens_dad 2025-08-07 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly I don't think we can prosecute them for murder/attempted murder until the result occurs. Conspiracy to murder might be an option ...