Interesting Links for 04-09-2024

[andrewducker]

1. Is My Blue Your Blue? (Hue 177 for me, bluer than 76% of the population)

(tags:colour perception names )

2. Kids who use ChatGPT as a study assistant for maths problem do worse on tests

(tags:maths ai teaching )

3. Rail nationalisation takes a step closer under Starmer's first major public reform

(tags:rail uk labour )

4. Labour won't ban dynamic pricing despite Oasis tickets anger, but will make it more transparent

(tags:labour economics music )

5. New coastal neighbourhood masterplan unveiled for Seafield in Edinburgh

(tags:edinburgh housing sea viaDanielDWilliam )

6. What British women really fantasise about

(tags:fantasy sex uk )

7. I'd love to see some science-based discussion on this piece about whether Covid is something worth stressing about.

(tags:pandemic )

8. Grenfell disaster - key points

(tags:UK fire fraud death OhForFucksSake )

Comments

[greenwoodside]

Your boundary is at hue 171, greener than 72% of the population. For you, turquoise is blue.

But I imagine that the results could depend a lot on the light in the room, the screen being used, and the device settings.

Welsh (and probably stuff from the Goedelic branch of the Celtic languages, too, I guess) has a word glas which is sometimes translated as greeny-blue. These days it means blue, on the whole, but once was closer in meaning to green. That's still very visible in some words and idioms. e.g. glaswellt meaning 'grass'.

I read somewhere that not just the Celtic languages have a fuzziness around the green/blue distinction, but don't have time to investigate further at the moment...

[magedragonfire]

Japanese is like that, too. The word for green only came into common usage fairly recently (post-WW2); everything before that was mostly referred to as blue, and still is, if colour is referenced in a plant name or whatnot.

It’s a pretty common thing in a lot of language families, really.

[greenwoodside]

My new favourite Wikipedia article!

[magedragonfire]

Haha! Language and perception/cognition differences are just neat.

171

[lsanderson]

On an OLED monitor if that makes any difference, and whingeing at a couple where it's too tied to be one or the other.

Re: 171

[greenwoodside]

Yeah, a couple were just impossible to call.

Well, no. They were breen. Or maybe groo. But those weren't options!

[bens_dad]

There is scholarly debate, but some say that ancient Greek poets did not distinguish between green and blue.

https://www.grunge.com/285728/the-real-reason-ancient-people-didnt-see-the-color-blue/

https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/why-there-was-no-word-for-blue-in-ancient-greece-and-how-homer-and-aristotle-perceived-colors

[greenwoodside]

When Homer refers to the sky as "bronze," he does not mean that it is the color of bronze but rather that it is dazzlingly bright, like a well-polished shield.

What a beautiful idea. Makes me want to reread Homer paying more attention to the use of colour.