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Re: Also: about Item 2 on today's list?

[personal profile] channelpenguin 2023-01-25 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I could hope for UBI as genuinely "U". But I remain convinced that human nature (and wrong assumptions about lazy people) will ensure it doesn't happen.

I'm pretty sure I could set myself up to survive on €1000/month. My pension if I ever get there would be more - but I suspect it UBI ever happens, then state pensions will cease to exist and people will just get UBI instead (though since Germany gives you a pension kinda based on what you earned over time, up to a not-dreadfully-generous limit maybe it wouldn't)
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Re: Also: about Item 2 on today's list?

[personal profile] dewline 2023-01-25 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a Canada Pension Plan, which for people with lots of short-term jobs won't amount to a lot, even with Old Age Security and other supplements added in these days. I think it's kept that way to encourage the Registered Retirement Savings Plan and Tax-Free Savings Account business...again, for those who could afford to pile money into those devices to begin with. Because "kinda based on what you earned over time" doesn't cut it for people who haven't been able to earn a lot to begin with. UBI as a successor to CPP - if properly structured (and I have no patience for people who think that "unemployed = chronically lazy", either) - would be far more helpful.

Not saying that RRSPs should be ended. If one can top up like that, go ahead. Just don't starve me to keep their idea of what a just universe looks like in force.
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Re: Also: about Item 2 on today's list?

[personal profile] channelpenguin 2023-01-25 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.