Interesting Links for 14-05-2021

[andrewducker]

Janelle Monae Joins Daniel Craig in 'Knives Out' Sequel

(tags:movies )

Movies Every Physics Student Should Watch

(tags:physics movies )

NHS tracing app prevented thousands of deaths (and hundreds of thousands of cases)

(tags:pandemic nhs apps )

It's True. Everyone IS Multitasking on Their Video Calls

(tags:multitasking work )

Wales elects the world's first elected non-binary mayor

(tags:wales gender politics )

When Germans Find Out About Tipping in the U.S.

(tags:video tips usa funny true )

Black homeowner had a white friend stand in for third appraisal. Her home value doubled.

(tags:USA racism housing )

Native oysters reintroduced into Firth of Clyde

(tags:Scotland sea seafood )

In a system with lots of small parties, forcing one of them to give up a vote to make someone a presiding officer seems like bad design

(tags:politics scotland )

That was the County Court Judgment that was - and why everyone is entitled to a civil justice system that works at the speed it worked for Boris Johnson

(tags:law UK )

Back in the 80s I played computer games - by post. (Fascinating slice of now dead history)

(tags:games history mail )

Palestinian Family Who Lost Home In Airstrike Takes Comfort In Knowing This All Very Complicated

(tags:viaJohnSmith Israel palestine satire )

Israel vows not to stop Gaza attacks until there is 'complete quiet'

(tags:Israel Palestine war OhForFucksSake )

How to criticize Israel without being anti-Semitic

(tags:Jews Israel bigotry advice )

Comments

[danieldwilliam]

And what are people going to do when all their land has been taken from them?

[calimac]

1) Nobody's taking all the Palestinians' land away.

2) They're not going to be genocided, whatever else happens.

[ninetydegrees]

The 'Indian removal' policy has been said to be genocide, or lead to genocide by some historians I believe. I don't think ethnic cleansing or genocide has to always be the direct assassination and extermination of a group of people. I think you can reach the same outcome using other means, and knowing your actions will potentially or can lead to it. I'm not saying this is the case here but I think it's fair to question Israel's intent and what they think will happen to forcibly displaced Palestinians. If they aim to leave this population without any means to survive this is an eventual genocide.
And I apologize if I've misunderstood what you were trying to say.

[calimac]

I believe something like 90% of the Indians died as a result of the incursions of the whites. That's why it's called genocide. When the Palestinian death rate begins to approach that, call again. I don't think it's going to happen. The idea of them all slowly starving in border-zone refugee camps because all their lands have been taken is quite fanciful. Even the Syrians with all their troubles are not in such a state.

[ninetydegrees]

When the Palestinian death rate begins to approach that, call again. I don't think it's going to happen. The idea of them all slowly starving in border-zone refugee camps because all their lands have been taken is quite fanciful.

Ok I understand your reasoning now. Thanks for the very interesting conversation :)

[calimac]

I hope you don't think I approve of the Israeli government's behavior. I find it quite appalling. But it doesn't amount to genocide, and it weakens the case against it to call it that.

[zlyuk]

oh, dear. before posing various complicated counterfactuals, let's first get our facts straight.

1. this one is not the case of taking a land from people by the state. it's a court decision on a years-long quarrel about property. surely, it is politically charged and sensitive, but still this is a technical law act.
like, not every time an irishman is evicted from his home in Belfast, it's a war atrocity by the occupying UK regime.
2. if this is the way by which (supposedly!) the wretched Israel tries to seize Palestinians' land, it is awfully inefficient. a rude estimate: it would take 10^4-10^5 years to make any significant achievement, at this rate.

that's one paradox i really am puzzled about. the same argument usually charges Israel with most dreadful evil wills, and with most significant strength and abilities to carry these evil plans out. But somehow nothing of this really happened over the last 50 years. No genocide, no massive theft of lands, no millions of homeless refugees. somehow the big bad wolf is very very clumsy and unsuccessful.