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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2018-12-16 11:00 am
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[personal profile] calimac 2018-12-16 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
Regarding the dismal polling numbers, I count 2005 as the election when the UK switched from the traditional system of voters dissatisfied with one party rotating to another, to a system where they reject all the parties, and the government goes to whomever loses least badly.

Regarding whether Gordon Brown made a gaffe or was telling the honest truth: both, actually. The US pundit Michael Kinsley defines a gaffe as when a politician tells the truth, or, more precisely, says what they really think.
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[personal profile] dewline 2018-12-16 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
There are times when such a thing is not a gaffe, but is precisely what's needed at a particular moment. The current Trudeau's had a few of those, ditto several of his cabinet.
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[personal profile] calimac 2018-12-16 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Have they? I don't get much Canadian news: do you have any links or examples handy?
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[personal profile] zotz 2018-12-16 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Although the lowest turnout was 2001 and it's risen in each general election since.
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[personal profile] calimac 2018-12-16 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Turnout alone doesn't measure this phenomenon. While it's risen, it hasn't risen that much, and is still low historically. 1997 was a drop on 1992, yet the turn to enthusiasm for Labour was high. 2001 was lowest probably because that was the year that the Tories reached their absolute nadir in hopelessness.