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[personal profile] momentsmusicaux 2018-01-27 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I do think it's daft that you have to validate your pass on the platform, rather than in the tram.

The trams in Paris have the things to stick your pass on / your ticket in in the area between each set of doors. It means you can just run on.
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[personal profile] momentsmusicaux 2018-01-27 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
That's if you have your pass out already. If it's at the bottom of a bag, it's time you maybe don't have.

And if there are lots of people, you have to wait at the stop while the tram is about to go, whereas if it's on board the tram, you all get on and there's no longer a rush.

And it's easy to forget if you're in a rush: that happened to us once (and T managed to hop out and validate and the next stop before we got inspected!)

Ultimately though, it's a different system from the bus where you board and deal with ticketing once you're there, which makes it confusing for people.
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[personal profile] momentsmusicaux 2018-01-27 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. The Paris transport company did an ad campaign about that a while back, because lots of people weren't tagging their passes. It lets them gather data on usage, so they can better plan timetables and capacity and future development and so on.
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[personal profile] momentsmusicaux 2018-01-27 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you're pretty much left to your own devices. Ticket inspectors in Paris are like on the buses in Edinburgh -- once in a blue moon, random inspection.

Several decades ago they started letting people board buses at the rear doors if you had a travel pass, and then when they started having contactless ones, they put the pads to swipe them on board. Then carried that over to the trams when those started.

[personal profile] nojay 2018-01-28 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea, as I understand it is that a validating terminal on the tram would allow people to avoid paying for a trip on a smartcard unless they see the ticket inspector coming along the carriage at which point they can make a mad rush for the validating terminal.

It doesn't apply on the Edinburgh trams for various reasons -- most passes are "all you can eat" unlimited travel cards rather than working as pre-paid debit cards like Oyster, Suica etc. so not validating the card doesn't save anyone any money. There would be no ticket-issuing machines on board.

From speaking to a conductor they validate passes so that the trams revenue stream can be separated from Lothian buses since the smartcards interoperate on the two services. The cards are checked 100% on entry to the bus but there are too many doors on a tram to enforce that check on boarding hence the patrolling conductor who checks tickets and smartcards most of the time (but not always).

The contactless debit card payment scheme (and smartphone-pay too) is a no-brainer solution for people digging through their wallets and bags to find enough change to buy tickets while the tram is pulling into the platform. It should have been implemented a lot earlier but wasn't for some reason.