i don't have a problem with someone being naked as long as they're not waggling at me or anything. unfortunately, i think that society (at least here) isn't well-equipped to handle nudity, because of the way we treat sex. it's sensational and shocking, but everywhere. it colors our view on everything. it seems like nudists are labelled deviants, hedonists, attention-seeking, promiscuous, etc.
I was going to write more to wolflady, but it fits here better.
I totally agree - it's society that is the problem. People are conditioned now to think that the naked human form, by and of itself, is sexual. Which, of course, it can be - but not when a bunch of people are frying themselves on a nudist-beach!
I like clothing - it's protective, it keeps us warm, and frankly, it is our own personal 'plumage' - it's (part of) how we show off to those we're attracted to. But I still think it's a shame that people can't divest themselves of it if they want to. If I'm chilling at my PC in the nudie, I'm not trying to be overt, or sexual, or even offensive. I'm not seeking attention. I'm merely being comfortable.
We are, after all, the only 'animal' that feels ashamed of our nudity.
i love clothes and making my hair do extraordinary things, using a bit of color to make my face look sultry, otherworldly natural...... i like to paint my toenails, lift and separate, highlight, contour and exfoliate.
i've dyed everything, tattooed, had holes punched in my ears.......
it's great amounts of fun. but there are days i just want to walk around nakee.
It's not only the association with sexuality, though, it's a lot of things. Like hygiene. Do you really want to sit on a non-airconditioned bus seat in the middle of the summer naked, where 20 other naked people have sat that day? Eww! I mean, pure sweat is bad enough (though if you're clothed, you have another layer of protection against it), but if everyone is naked, there's a higher chance of being more than just sweat on that chair.
Not to mention that it is a lot easier to look attractive with clothing than without. It's a lot easier to overlook a lot of flaws with clothing than without. Not that everyone has to look perfect, of course, but with clothing I can make the choice of whether I want people to see the birthmark on my thigh or not. With clothing, you have a lot more privacy.
Not to mention, it's easier for most men and women to move faster with clothing.
There are a heck of a lot of reasons that go far beyond the (slightly dismissive) one of "Oh, people don't like nudity because society has made them so frightened of sex."
Hey - I'm a bit behind, 'cos I didn't get near my PC last night.
I'm not sure the argument is for clothes/against clothes - it's for choice. Even if we allow that there would be times when clothes are necessary for protection (I did mention that elsewhere), there are still plenty of times when people could remove them without any adverse effects. Say, in Princes St gardens in Edinburgh, at lunchtime when Andy and I go. Or, for a better example, in your own back garden. Fact of the matter is, people can't - and for no logical reason.
I did think of the "clothing makes you attractive" argument last night. That's a fact. I find it far, far sexier when a woman is wearing clothing that shows glimpses of what's underneath, than I would if she was nekkid. Clothes just seem to keep getting sexier, which is fine by me!
So, you have a birthmark on your thigh? Is it in a funky shape? ;+)
I think it's also a matter of choice - my choice to have other people's nekkidness displayed to me or not! Right now, if I want to see someone naked and vice versa, I can propose that in a mutually acceptable fashion, without forcing that upon the other person. Otherwise, the other person's choice - to dangle their naked genetalia in my face if I'm sitting on a bus and they're standing, for instance - is forced upon me.
On the other hand, I'm not at all opposed to something like a nude beach, where if I go there, I do it in full acceptance that I can be nude, and other people will be. That's a different situation from walking through a city park, though.
And yes, I have a birthmark on my thigh, and I'm actually not at all worried about people seeing it. But it was just an example of something non-sexual and non-fat related that theoretically, someone might want to hide. ;) It's kind of oval, and looks like I missed a spot with suntan lotion, except that I never tan that deeply.
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i don't have a problem with someone being naked as long as they're not waggling at me or anything. unfortunately, i think that society (at least here) isn't well-equipped to handle nudity, because of the way we treat sex. it's sensational and shocking, but everywhere. it colors our view on everything. it seems like nudists are labelled deviants, hedonists, attention-seeking, promiscuous, etc.
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I totally agree - it's society that is the problem. People are conditioned now to think that the naked human form, by and of itself, is sexual. Which, of course, it can be - but not when a bunch of people are frying themselves on a nudist-beach!
I like clothing - it's protective, it keeps us warm, and frankly, it is our own personal 'plumage' - it's (part of) how we show off to those we're attracted to. But I still think it's a shame that people can't divest themselves of it if they want to. If I'm chilling at my PC in the nudie, I'm not trying to be overt, or sexual, or even offensive. I'm not seeking attention. I'm merely being comfortable.
We are, after all, the only 'animal' that feels ashamed of our nudity.
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i love clothes and making my hair do extraordinary things, using a bit of color to make my face look sultry, otherworldly natural...... i like to paint my toenails, lift and separate, highlight, contour and exfoliate.
i've dyed everything, tattooed, had holes punched in my ears.......
it's great amounts of fun. but there are days i just want to walk around nakee.
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Not to mention that it is a lot easier to look attractive with clothing than without. It's a lot easier to overlook a lot of flaws with clothing than without. Not that everyone has to look perfect, of course, but with clothing I can make the choice of whether I want people to see the birthmark on my thigh or not. With clothing, you have a lot more privacy.
Not to mention, it's easier for most men and women to move faster with clothing.
There are a heck of a lot of reasons that go far beyond the (slightly dismissive) one of "Oh, people don't like nudity because society has made them so frightened of sex."
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I'm not sure the argument is for clothes/against clothes - it's for choice. Even if we allow that there would be times when clothes are necessary for protection (I did mention that elsewhere), there are still plenty of times when people could remove them without any adverse effects. Say, in Princes St gardens in Edinburgh, at lunchtime when Andy and I go. Or, for a better example, in your own back garden. Fact of the matter is, people can't - and for no logical reason.
I did think of the "clothing makes you attractive" argument last night. That's a fact. I find it far, far sexier when a woman is wearing clothing that shows glimpses of what's underneath, than I would if she was nekkid. Clothes just seem to keep getting sexier, which is fine by me!
So, you have a birthmark on your thigh? Is it in a funky shape? ;+)
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On the other hand, I'm not at all opposed to something like a nude beach, where if I go there, I do it in full acceptance that I can be nude, and other people will be. That's a different situation from walking through a city park, though.
And yes, I have a birthmark on my thigh, and I'm actually not at all worried about people seeing it. But it was just an example of something non-sexual and non-fat related that theoretically, someone might want to hide. ;) It's kind of oval, and looks like I missed a spot with suntan lotion, except that I never tan that deeply.