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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2017-06-07 06:11 pm

Election Time Again

I get to vote tomorrow! Again!

As I haven't been on the winning side in a referendum or general election since 2001, I expect it to go horribly horribly badly.

Not locally, where it seems remarkably likely that the SNP are going to walk it*. But overall, despite YouGov getting all excitable, I fully expect the Conservatives to increase their majority, and us to plunge headlong off of the Brexit cliff. Because frankly the only thing that could save us right now is a surge in the number of young people voting, and all of my past experience tells me that...they won't.

My _ideal_ results would be a massively hung parliament, followed by Labour, SNP, LibDems, Greens, and Plaid Cymru being forced into an uneasy alliance, reforming the horrifically broken political system**, and then fumbling their way through the next few years until we can have a new election on proportional-ish grounds.

However, this was also my ideal result in 2015. And we all know how that went.

At the moment my best hope for the future is that after May completely fucks up Brexit and the country stares into the abyss, the SNP are able to run a campaign of "Let's get out of here, because the alternative is perpetual Conservative rule in a rights-free wasteland." and get independence. Which is not, frankly, how I would have wanted to achieve it.

But then I don't get much say in how the country is run.

Here, have a picture of Kimball, who is no longer a puppy:

and one of him with Uther:



*Not that I'll be voting for them, but they're a lot better than some of the alternatives.
**Where I know far too many people who are voting against something awful rather than for something good. This is one of the many curses of FPTP.
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[personal profile] theweaselking 2017-06-07 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
If there's a Tory majority, why would there be another election in a year?

Tory minority, sure.

Interesting thing! I looked up the etymology of "tory" today and learned that it's derived from a Middle Irish word that means "brigand, robber, or thief". And while that's, well, ACCURATE, it seemed odd that a political party would call themselves that.

It turns out it dates back to the English Civil war - the "Tories" supported James succeeding Charles II and were called Tories by the Whigs because they were trying to "steal" the throne. It was a pejorative term that they adopted - the equivalent of the 2400s having an American "Deplorable Party".

(Their opponents? "Whig" was a pejorative applied by the Tories, meaning "cattle driver" aka "hillbilly uncivilised lowborn hick". Which they adopted. So *both* parties named themselves after an insult applied by their opponents.)

[personal profile] theandrewhickey 2017-06-07 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see a genuinely good possible option from what sounds like the worst possible set of possibilities.
Tories get back in with a mildly increased majority. May gets stabbed in the back, front, and sides simultaneously for not getting a landslide, and Boris ascends to the leadership. Boris, in an "only Nixon can go to China" style, as former Leave campaign head, goes for ultra-soft Brexit, and calls for a new election to give him a mandate and shut the raving backbenchers up.
Labour replace Corbyn with Clive Lewis, who agrees a temporary progressive alliance with Lib Dems, Greens and SNP on the basis of no Brexit plus a new voting system. The goodies win in May 2017, and everyone stops being fascist dicks.
Yeah, not going to happen. But it'd be nice.
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[personal profile] rhythmaning 2017-06-07 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
My guess is that the Tories will win, but not by as much as they would hope. May has run a dreadful campaign - laughably bad - and will be defenestrated.

And her replacement would, like her, feel the need to legitimise their premiership. Hence another election.
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[personal profile] dewline 2017-06-07 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that explains a few things about Canadian Conservatives' sticking with that nickname...