[identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there such a thing as a lovely IDE? I've yet to find one that doesn't fail on totally basic text editing UI or have a crapton of fiddly buttons with totally mysterious icons. In other words, they all look too much like KDE!

[identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't tried it, as don't feel like spending that much on something like that.

I've tried Eclipse and NetBeans and they're both dire.

[identity profile] khoth.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Visual Studio Express does the basics, and is free. (Assuming you already have and use Windows)

[identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
OS X, I'm afraid. Or rather, I'm not, if you see what I mean :)

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
second that. VS IDE rocks quite hard. There is WAY more goodies to it than Andy mentions or that I can list here...

[identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to freely admit that I really do like VS's debugging, and Intellisense is the best implementation of autocompleting that I've ever seen.

Having said that, it 'feels' wrong to me as an editor, and I almost always work in a language where intellisense would be exactly equivalent to the plain old symbol-name autocomplete that I have in EMACS.

[identity profile] call-waiting.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually I guess that's not strictly true, I also work a lot in Perl and Python, but in Python I just use dir() in an interactive session and it tells me everything I need to know.

[identity profile] andlosers.livejournal.com 2012-03-08 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Visual Studio is lovely. I use NetBeans 7 right now, but because it's based on Java, it's dog slow in a way that slow dogs would be embarrassed to be associated with (while still being faster than Eclipse).

I've never found anything I really like for non .NET stuff - instead, I use an IDE until I get to the end of my tether with it, and move onto the next one. I can sort of see why people use vim, although that's always felt like seven shades of awful to me too.

If there was an IDE that just worked for my purposes, and did so well, I'd pay a thousand pounds for it, easily. Until then, a combination of things that don't quite work and Google gets me through.