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andrewducker) wrote2012-04-17 12:00 pm
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Interesting Links for 17-04-2012
- Sceptic debunks "miracle", is arrested for blasphemy
- Majority of England now declared to be in drought - may last until Christmas
- When your non-patented drugs are spontaneously converted into patents ones. I love nanotech.
- The conviction rate for rape is 58%, higher than the average. Reporting it as 6% just puts people off reporting it.
- Greece,Portugal and Spain all fucked. They can't devalue, and they can't be competitive _and_ pay debts off.
- When Eton and Goldman Sachs run charities, the system needs reform
- Volcano eruptions follow Benford's Law
- North Korean Press Bus Takes a Wrong Turn, Gets Some Unauthorised Pictures
- Man whose WMD lies led to 100,000 deaths confesses all
- Abuse At Scale: How GMail deals with outgoing spam.
- Most people not aware how much sugar there is in "healthy" drinks (like fruit juice).
- Can a stroke change someone's sexuality?
- The Official Doctor Who Fan Club - the story of how the BBC handed Who fandom to a 13-year-old
- Ann Widdecombe can fuck off. "Bring back the concept of shame" my arse. (Tories trying to clamp down on drunk people)
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It already is illegal to be drunk in public, or to be drunk and disorderly (Wikipedia, with cites of the statutes).
I think the comparison to the smoking ban need not imply that we should only worry about drinkers who are damaging the health of others or harming the NHS (though
It is _none of her business_ what my state is, unless I am causing destruction of property or harassing people. Should I wish to get horribly drunk then that is _my_ choice.
The law disagrees, and I think rightly. According to the CPS, you need not be a damaging properly or harassing people to be disorderly, you can just be making a public place unpleasant ("rowdy behaviour in a street late at night which might alarm residents or passers-by"). The CPS link came from this thread, where it's discussed a bit.
What Ann Widdecombe proposes seems to be to enforce existing laws, plus a bit of the old Tory "put them in the stocks" business. I doubt the stocks will work, but I'm in favour of enforcing these laws, because doing so would make public spaces better.
There's also the Schroedinger's rapist argument, I suppose: saying I should not be concerned about drunks I encounter as long as they're not violent pre-supposes I know which ones might turn violent so that I can go about my business in public without fear (as long as my spider sense doesn't start tingling). In practice people don't have the spider sense, so you end up with no go areas at certain times.
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