andrewducker: (Default)
andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2012-03-11 11:00 am

[identity profile] fyrie.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, street harrassment. One of the many reasons I'm a stay-indoors person. When you get to the point of wearing clothes that make you look misshapen and unappealing, while also carrying your keyring in your hand as a weapon, you know you do not feel comfortable being out after dark for fear of harrassment turning nasty.

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Street harrassment: bloody hell, no-one shd have to live like that. I feel so, so lucky, never really had any hassle (touch wood). How can people(men) be *like* that??? I mean in themselves - just how? I know all the stock answers but it's still near-impossible to imagine either such a total lack of empathy or, if it's not immunity to women's/other people's feelings, such a desire to explicitly cause pain/fear/humiliation.

[identity profile] andrewhickey.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately many, many men are exactly like that. Without wanting to in any way compare what I go through to what those women go through, I know just from looking unusual (long beard and overweight) that a large percentage of young men, especially in groups (and especially those wearing football clothing) want nothing more than to cause others pain and distress.
A LOT of people enjoy causing pain to others, and it's just a matter of finding a social situation where they're allowed to. And sadly that kind of behaviour is more or less accepted, or people just don't believe it happens.

[identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
my ex-wife comments near every time I go anywhere with her that people act *completely differently* when I'm there. It's like the arsehole switch is magically flipped.

Now, I'm aware that I can be very intimidating [it's not in any way deliberate, just buckets of experience], but I cannot help but wonder if people just behave better when there's a non-idiotic man around. It's a sobering thought.

[identity profile] fub.livejournal.com 2012-03-11 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I've once been mistaken for an attacker by a lady who lived in the same flat. It was winter and I took the bus back home from the train station in the evening, so it was already dark. I got out of the bus at the back, and this lady took the exit in the middle of the bus -- so I was walking some 10 meters behind her.
It's a few hundred meters from the bus stop to the flat. I walked at a leisurely pace and kept up with her. I did notice her glancing back, but I didn't make anything of it at that moment. When she walked up to the flat, she hastened her pace. My flat was at the first stairwell, and so I walked up the sidewalk behind her and got my keys out of my pocket -- which was her cue to sprint away.

This baffled me at that moment, but then I replayed all that had happened in my mind, and realised that she must have assumed that I had followed her home from the bus (which I did) to attack her (which I had no intention to). Back then, this amused me, but now I feel bad for giving her such a fright.
I don't know what I could have done differently, though. I could have tried to walk faster and overtake her en route to home, but perhaps that would have been interpreted as an overture to an attack as well. Speaking to her could easily be misinterpreted as well.

[identity profile] kerrypolka.livejournal.com 2012-03-12 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Crossing the road is a good way of communicating that you're not following someone, even if you do have to cross back (that's maybe more useful for longer walks), or looking in a shop window for a minute or two.