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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2011-02-22 01:33 pm

Funny Money

So, what with being off to Tenerife for a week, we needed some Euros.

The nearest bank to my work is an RBS at the top of the street, so I wandered along at lunchtime.

They have a system I've not seen before - you use a touch screen to tell a computer what it is you want, and it then gives you a ticket that puts you in the correct queue. You can then take a seat, and when someone is free who can deal with your issue then there's an announcement (vocal and on screens) telling you where to go. It seems to work pretty well.

Better than the actual process of getting some cash did, anyway. I don't bank with RBS, but I assumed that I'd be able to just use my Visa Debit card to pay them, and they'd then hand me some European wonga.

Sadly, this was not to be the case. It turns out that (a)accepting payment from a debit card is beyond the abilities of RBS, and (b) they only sell Euros (and presumably other currency) in presized bundles (€100, €250, etc.).

So rather than saying "£350 worth of your finest european currency please, here is my card." I had to go first get the cashier to do some maths to work out what the best fit was for £350 worth of euros, and then go and find a cash machine upstairs, take out £300 on my card (that being the maximum it allows per day), and £60 on our joint card (thank goodness for having a joint account!), take that cash downstairs, and hand it over so that she could hand me four envelopes (sealed, of course, and I didn't have the energy to open each of them and check - so I'll be very grumpy if they're wrong when I get home).

Presumably the cash will then be taken back upstairs and put back into the ATM so that someone else can do the same thing for _their_ holiday money.

Somehow, it doesn't feel quite as efficient as it could be.

[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Scottish physical money can't be used to pay for things in Scotland? You do absolutely everything by cheque or plastic?
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[personal profile] drplokta 2011-02-22 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't confuse "legal tender" and "what you can spend". Cheques and plastic are also not legal tender, but as you observe, they are widely accepted. Scottish notes are also widely accepted in Scotland. But you're allowed to refuse to accept payment in Scottish notes (or indeed English/Welsh notes, which are also not legal tender in Scotland) as settlement of a debt (in theory, anyway; in practice, if it comes to court, the court will tell you not to be so silly).

[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
So, wait, there is *nothing* anyone in Scotland is legally required to accept for payment of a debt?

How... odd. I'm shocked that SOME bright soul hasn't decided to refuse all payment while still charging interest, and then go to court to claim assets in lieu.

I mean, it's really like the classic definition of chutzpah - the man who murders his parents, and asks the court for mercy on the grounds that he is an orphan - but I'm still shocked nobody's tried it if there really is nothing you're required to let people pay with.
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[personal profile] drplokta 2011-02-22 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Coins are legal tender, and pound coins are good up to any amount.

[identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's what you meant, sorry for getting the wrong end of the stick. I didn't know that notes weren't actually legal tender.

[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I normally would consider a "coin" to be "physical money", but I do see where the confusion came up in the discussion.

So someone COULD be all silly buggers about not accepting paper, plastic, or cheque - but then you'd call your bank, borrow a wheelbarrow, and pay in pennies, and make them count it and carry it. Right, then.
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[personal profile] drplokta 2011-02-22 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Not pennies, I fear. Pennies are only legal tender for up to 20p. It's only pound coins, two pound coins and five pound coins that are good for any amount.

[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
How... odd.

No, seriously.

[identity profile] bracknellexile.livejournal.com 2011-02-22 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you have an official link detailing all this? I'm intrigued by the definition of legal tender being quite that pedantic compared to what we all take for granted.
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[personal profile] drplokta 2011-02-22 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.royalmint.com/corporate/policies/legal_tender_guidelines.aspx

Although it doesn't specifically address the status of Scottish and Northern Irish notes.