[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, would love to hear more from the people who think nuclear power is scarier than global warming.

[identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
(I clicked on the wrong thing. Doh.)

[identity profile] gonzo21.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah ha, thank you kindly. I didn't know it was possible to do that.
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-08-16 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There are people that don't believe global warming is happening. Some of these people are otherwise sane and rational and just don't think the evidence is trustworthy (and sometimes, they've got a point).

Nuclear power, on the other hand, has clearly killed people within living memory.

So if you don't think "AGW" is happening, then nuclear power is clearly scarier.

[identity profile] pseudomonas.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's worth noting that the fossil fuel industry kills really quite a lot of people, but they tend to be a) foreigners and b) miners or oilrig-workers, so they obviously don't count.
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-08-16 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, but they tend to be over a period of time, and rarely make the news, complete disasters with deaths don't hit headlines often.

Because they're fairly common on a small scale.

Even the gulf oil spill was mostly about all that oil, the deaths were mentioned a few times then forgotten.

Whereas Chernobyl was global news, Iran building a reactor is global news (and, really, I can't see what the fuss about that is, if we're allowed them, and China's allowed them, why can't Iran have them?).

People think air travel is dangerous, but road travel isn't, despite the latter being a lot more lethal.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you think - do you think we are experiencing anthropogenic global warming?
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-08-16 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
My tick in favour of it being scarier implies yes, I do. I'm not utterly convinced, but then I'm rarely sure about anything, the evidence points to it being true, and the best estimates is it'll sink my hometown, amongst other not nice effects.

Ergo, it scares me and I'd rather try to stop it, and the opportunity cost represented by the resources spent on other things is an annoyance. Renewable power is probably a net good even if climate change science is wrong.
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-08-16 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly, if it goes wrong, it really goes wrong. But such events are very rare, and normally due to incompetent design and procedures.

Apart from their deliberate positioning fairly close to where I grew up, the French don't seem to have had any problems with their stations, not major ones anyway.
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[personal profile] simont 2010-08-16 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
They might have interpreted the question as "inspires more visceral fear" rather than "objectively more dangerous in the long run", perhaps?

The word "nuclear" is impressively scary in the former terms, including as it does the twin failure modes of earth-shattering kabooms that level a city and invisible death fields you don't even know you're walking into until it's far too late. (I realise the former is unlikely in terms of nuclear power in particular, but it will still be associated in people's minds with the word "nuclear".) Either of those on its own would be fairly scary; associating both with the same technology makes it entirely plausible that that technology would inspire a lot of gut-level fear.