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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2010-07-21 12:00 pm
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[identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com 2010-07-22 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Here:s what I'm working with

Censorship: the limiting of free speech.
Free speech: the expression of ideas through any form of communication by a given entity.

[identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com 2010-07-22 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
By your definition, you would be censoring me should I write "dirty, dirty" with my fingertip in the dust on your car and you wash your car at any time thereafter. Your definitions are excessively broad, to the point of becoming meaningless.

-- Steve can define "food" as "stuff you put in your mouth", but that doesn't make pens, air, thumbs, cigarettes, and genitalia provide sustenance.

[identity profile] usmu.livejournal.com 2010-07-22 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
For anything to be a proper definition it needs to meet two criteria:
1) it must include everything of the thing you want to define
2) it must exclude everything not of the thing you want to define

Your definition of food does not meet the second criteria. I don't think my definition of censorship has a similar problem.

As to it being broad... Censorship is not a large single homogeneous entity, but a building made up of bricks. Person vs person - Group vs. person - Group vs. Group, but to name a few. Some bricks that are very bad, some mildly so and some pretty much harmless. For me the point is recognizing that, describing the different kinds of censorship and discussing whether they serve a genuine purpose ar not. A