Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] broin.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean sell stuff which is literally not ever possible to copy. :)

Concerts, meeting the band, artbooks, anything unique like that. Sell unique experiences. Sell memories.

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That makes more sense! Though quite a lot of those can be copied too. Even if only to an inferior extent. ;)

But it's true, you can't copy an experience. It's unique!

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] broin.livejournal.com 2010-07-06 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, we were totally talking past each other. :)

What you're making isn't necessarily going to make money. But stuff around it might make money.

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] zornhau.livejournal.com 2010-07-07 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"What you're making isn't necessarily going to make money. But stuff around it might make money."

Yes, but of course this will change the art forms.

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] broin.livejournal.com 2010-07-08 10:28 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely, but I don't think the art forms are precious.

And I remember another analogy I heard recently. How much is a drink?

In a pub, it's a few quid. In a strip club, it's a lot of money. In a casino, it's free.

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] zornhau.livejournal.com 2010-07-08 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on what you mean by draconian.

At the moment DRM on e-books is usually so annoying that there are good economic reasons for not doing it. This may change with the rise of handheld books.

Personally, I would embed the user's name in e-books, and explicitly invite them to share their books with 3 friends.

Simultaneously, I would go after file sharing sites - especially the smug ones claiming to be online libraries circumventing greedy publishers and authors etc - using ninjas or possibly Serbian mercenaries in such a manner that my name would supplant that of Dracon in common usage.

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] zornhau.livejournal.com 2010-07-08 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
>Definitely, but I don't think the
>art forms are precious.

Dunno. I rather like the well rounded 100K SF/F novel... as do the people who download pirate copies.


>How much is a drink?
Not a good analogy because, whatever the source, a bottle of Becks is a bottle of Becks.

Analogies really just obscure the simplicity of what's happening: the Tragedy of the Commons.

Re: Fighting with teenagers

[identity profile] broin.livejournal.com 2010-07-08 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a good analogy because, whatever the source, a bottle of Becks is a bottle of Becks.

Yes... but that's my point. :) The content is the same, and we pay for the medium (venue). I've paid for physical copies of books that are free and Creative Commonsed. I've bought electronic copies of books I own. The actual *stuff* might not be what I'm paying for.