[identity profile] erindubitably.livejournal.com 2010-06-22 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know why you haven't replied to my comment yet, but if you don't want to address all of it at least tell me what harm it does to tell people they're beautiful. How does that harm them and society? I really want to know what your reasoning is so I can attempt to understand your statements.

[identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com 2010-06-22 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
We're dealing with a word that's very loaded and I feel we're perhaps bringing different ideas to it.

Say 'wonderful'. I have no problem at all saying that everyone is wonderful, and will be especially wonderful to some other person.

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-06-22 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you dare try to turn this into a semantic argument. We are not arguing about different concepts here - we are both talking about physical appearance, about what society says about physical appearance, what the majority say about physical appearance, and whether that standard can be considered to be an objective concept and whether doing so is harmful or otherwise.

[identity profile] erindubitably.livejournal.com 2010-06-22 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand how you commented supportively on my post yesterday and yet you can say things like this. If you want to change things you're going to need to do things that make you uncomfortable, including look at your definition of 'beautiful' and the way it's used in society and then changing how you use it.

I'm not going to say 'wonderful' because that's not what I mean. I mean 'beautiful' because I believe that everybody is attractive to somebody, and that telling them that is not setting them up for failure but instead hopefully contributing to a positive self-image so that they can find that someone (if they want to) someday.

Criticize the American dream all you like but I don't understand how telling someone something positive about themselves is ensuring disappointment. That seems defeatist and untrue.