andrewducker: (obey)
andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2010-05-05 07:01 pm

I have only come here seeking truth

Over on my post about the awful conditions in the Conservative's "model" council [livejournal.com profile] channelpenguin asks if it would be easy to find a Labour council that would be as bad.

And I don't know. But I sincerely hope that if I put up a post here trashing the Tories and it's wrong, or if there are equally good examples against other parties, then there'll be responses here telling me that Johann Hari as his facts wrong (with links to a rebuttal) , or that the situation isn't the fault of the local council (with links to the reasons why this is true).

Yes, I have opinions, and I will defend them - but I'm not dogmatic about them, and I'm delighted when someone presents me with evidence of my wrongness. This actually happens on a semi-regular basis, and the great thing about it is that I get to change my mind and be _less wrong_.

If I find something interesting, I link to it. And sometimes I find something interesting, but not entirely persuasive. So I link to it in the hope that someone will tell me why it's rubbish, or provide more information to make it more persuasive. Either is fine by me - I'm just using you all to my own ends :->

[identity profile] channelpenguin.livejournal.com 2010-05-05 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Point. But what does *party policy* actually say - as opposed to what the party leader says? Not that I am a Cameron fan... but presumably he isn't publicly espousing leaving pregnant women hiding from violent partners to sleep on park benches etc. And I doubt that such is written in the Tory manifesto anywhere. Maybe :-) Though that gap is sorta mentionedn in the article asthe thought that volunteers will step in. ('women' I suppose the tory mindest would probably run!)

I'd like, I suppose, to see a comparison of actual spending figures in all areas from all councils over the past 5-10 years. As well as what services they got for the money. I'd want to see a factual comparison of all councils actual actions if such a thing could ever possibly be obtained.

[identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com 2010-05-05 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're afflicted with something like the U.S. Political system, what "the Party Policy actually says" doesn't necessarily correlate with what the Party Leaders (or followers) actually _do_ -- hence the need for Eternal Vigilance. *sigh*