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[identity profile] robhu.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
With respect to the relationship counsellor, what concerns me is that it is illegal to change the terms of someones employment contract without their agreement, but that is essentially what happened here - his whole job description changed when the law changed, something that would not ordinarily be allowed.

Now I know that many people who read this comment will think that homosexual relationships are the same in almost all or all ways as heterosexual ones. That may or may not be the case, that's not my point, my point is that for some people it's not the case, and it puts people like this in a really hard situation.

It'd be easy to push buttons of he's being oppressed or the gay people he wouldn't counsel are being oppressed, but what I'd propose is something less confrontational. Our society is full of people with different views about morality and so on, views which conflict, and we all have to live and work together. It seems to me that it would have been ideal for Christian counsellors to have been allowed to not work with gay couples on personal moral grounds (in the same way that doctors do not have to do things they object to morally, like abortions), in cases where no one would actually be disadvantaged by doing so. So in places where there were multiple counsellors most of whom would have no problem with counselling gay couples, have them takeover those future cases. Such an exemption would only apply to people currently employed, anyone new joining would not have that exemption, so it closely mirrors the situation with changing the terms of someone's contract (you can't, but you can have a different contract for new people).

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
New news on "Campfire" - the game which puts you on the wrong side in an 80s slasher movie.

Do you remember Killer Net?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_Net

It was one of Paul Bettany's earliest roles.

[identity profile] marrog.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
"It seems that a religious bar to office has been created, whereby a Christian who wishes to act on their Christian beliefs on marriage will no longer be able to work in a great number of environments."

And quite right. If a political vegetarian took a job at Gregg's and was then sacked for refusing to make or serve meat pasties to the public would they have a leg to stand on through discrimination laws?
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[identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Campfire isn't the first game to do that. I remember playing the Friday 13th game on the Spectrum in the 80's. Of course in 16-bit colour, it wasn't quite as realistic.

[identity profile] momentsmusicaux.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice to see the US growing a pair when it comes to Israel.

Not sure how I feel about Belgium. I felt I supported this, but now it's here, I'm thinking, sure, it's a symbol of oppression, but ban the symbol and the oppression remains.

[identity profile] in-thy-bounty.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It says 'Campfire is scheduled for release October 2009'

Anyone know if it actually got released?

[identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
FiveThirtyEight: UK Seats Projection: Tories 299, Labour 199, LibDems 120
I could live with that

I know the Tories aren't as insane as the US Republican party, but they are still the party of Margaret Thatcher. How is having them with more than 45% of the vote and well more of the vote than either other major party a remotely good thing?
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