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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2010-04-19 01:26 pm

Why I'm in favour of Proportional Representation

According to the BBC, the current polls show Lib Dems on 33%, Conservatives on 32%, Labour on 26%.
Which would give a seat allocation of Conservatives: 246, Labour 241, Lib Dems: 134.
Or, in a more easily digestible table format:
Party Percentage Seats
Lib Dems 33% 134
Conservatives 32% 246
Labour 26% 241

It should be pretty fucking obvious that this is an electoral system that is fucked in the head.

Re: for the slow american in the room

[identity profile] skington.livejournal.com 2010-04-20 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the salient point here is that America across the board is more right-wing than the UK, or indeed any European country. So yes, the Democrats, being the more left-wing party, get support from the unions, the poor and the deprived. That still puts them to the right of the Tories on most issues.
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Re: for the slow american in the room

[personal profile] matgb 2010-04-21 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Right of the Tories on most issues.

The Democrats under Dean, Pelosi and Obama are right of the Tories? SRSLY?

Have you looked at the Tory policy platform?

Re: for the slow american in the room

[identity profile] skington.livejournal.com 2010-04-21 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
On health care, neither Pelosi nor Obama even seriously considered a single-payer system. (Dean did, to his credit, but then he's positioned himself to the left of the party as a general rule in the last few years.) David Cameron has promised that no matter what other drastic cuts he makes to other parts of the budget, he'll match and protect Labour's planned spending increases on the NHS.

Or, for that matter, the Tories want to let toffs hunt foxes again, but they're not proposing that just anyone be allowed guns.
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Re: for the slow american in the room

[personal profile] matgb 2010-04-21 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't consider it not necessarily because they didn't actually want it; they only just got the watered down basterdisation they ended up with passed. And several are saying it's distincly the first step, etc.

They've dragged US health care to the "left" of where it was, significantly. Cameron plans to drag it to the "right" significantly in a number of ways (some of which I approve of, mostly I don't).

The NHS is such a touchstone issue he can't afford to be seen to be attacknig it (but look up Dan Hannan's comments on it, or Douglas CArswells).

Politicians react to their home electorate, Tories largely want to do things that they know they can't get away with, although given the collapse of their campaign they seem to be lurching right anyway.