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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2009-11-03 07:51 am

A question of policy

[Poll #1480150]

Note - by "public" here, I mean to people outside of the company, like journalists or similar, not openly to people inside of the company.

[identity profile] ninebelow.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
You can sack a consultant, can't you?

[identity profile] likeneontubing.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yes definitely.

[identity profile] ninebelow.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I think technically he was employed as an advisor but surprisingly I've not seen any of the paperwork. If you question is really "is there a difference between being employed as a consultant and being employed as an employee?" then yes, of course there is.

[identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
He isn't employed at all, at least not in a financial sense. Being a government special advisor is an unpaid position. He still holds his post as an academic and presumably gets paid for that. It should also be noted that he did not go running to a tabloid with his comments, they were taken from a paper he published in the Journal of Psychopharmacology.

I contend that the two positions are incompatible. An academic cannot only publish work that is in line with government policy whilst a government advisor apparently cannot publish anything that the government does not agree with.

[identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
Several things:

Government special advisers are paid, often very well paid.
SpAds also get to say things the government disagrees with; they're not civil servants and are not bound by the same rules as civil servants.
Many academics are in fact employed as civil servants; when this happens they tend to have discussions about getting a dispensation to continue to publish in their specialist areas.
A lot of them are employed as consultants anyway, in which case the rules covering civil servants don't entirely apply.

[identity profile] a-pawson.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
According to the BBC, David Nutt's advisory position was unpaid.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334948.stm

[identity profile] ninebelow.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
There is a clash of terminology here. Special Advisors are something specific (essentially party apparatchiks) whereas (as I understand it) Nutt is just an advisor.

[identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com 2009-11-03 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
He wasn't paid, but he was doing a job, and it is reasonable for his boss to relive him of responsibilities.

Johnson has been an arse, though.