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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2009-08-26 04:33 pm

Recapping on yesterday while my unit tests run

The BBC picked up on the Microsoft story from yesterday



What really gets me is the complete lack of thought. If they didn't want to have a black person in a Polish advert (for whatever reason) then why not reshoot the bloody advert? Someone didn't realise that nowadays you _cannot_ get away with this kind of thing...

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[identity profile] hfnuala.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm blaming Microsoft as this incident tells me nothing about Polish racism except that Microsoft believes it exists.

[identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm inclined to fault Poland more than MS: I've worked with MS, and they're frankly uninterested in the colour of your skin so long as the colour of your money is good. Also, Poland's track record with minorities isn't exactly stellar... a side-effect of a sad history due to unfortunate geography.

-- Steve does think it was a rather dismal airbrushing attempt, though. Frankly amaturish, really.

[identity profile] cairmen.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Cost of a reshoot would be a LOT higher - still peanuts to Microsoft as a whole, but probably quite significant to the Marketing Manager for Poland. Not that I'm saying they should have done what they did, but quick Photoshop vs arranging photographer, set, getting models in, quite probably in a different office, then getting the image re-signed-off by all stakeholders...

[identity profile] paddie-gal.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually don't think it's inherently racist - I don't know Poland terribly well, but maybe there's not a lot of black people there. so if Microsoft are making an ad to appeal to a certain demographic, and it's intended to make the viewer identify with the product, then you tailor the add to your target audience. How is it different to having a product specifically for black people, like hair relaxer or black skin makeup? you wouldn't include a white person in the advert, cos that's not your demographic.

or am I totally up my own ass on this one?

[identity profile] cheekbones3.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Both of them look like badly photoshopped heads.

[identity profile] xquiq.livejournal.com 2009-08-26 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect it's a poor attempt to 'deliver the message' while 'engaging the target demographic', based on some knowledge of Poland, but without considering that someone nowadays would actually notice.

Knowing little about the racial situation in Poland (beyond high level demographics), I can't really comment on the second question.