I wasn't saying that the answer to X was to do _worse_ things. I don't think anyone was.
And you said that if an action was happening in another country then intervening was wrong. I assumed that you mean that intervening was more wrong than whatever was happening. As "countries" are constructs created by people with no 'natural' state of being, it seems you're willing to let these lines get in the way of saving people from awful fates.
"countries" are constructs created by people with no 'natural' state of being
So are laws, human rights, marriages, etc, but I respect those too.
Like I've said already, I think we were originally at cross purposes over the kind of "saving people" being discussed. I'm all for saving people in a way that involves offering them safety as opposed to going in and using our superior might to impose our will on their persecutors and force them to behave.
So are laws, human rights, marriages, etc, but I respect those too.
All laws? Because I certainly don't.
And offering safe haven is always a good start. But when the torturers in the other country won't let people go, and are herding them into death camps, I tend to be in favour of action.
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"There are ways of trying to stop bad_action_X which are even more wrong than bad_action_X" does not imply "bad_action_X is OK".
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And you said that if an action was happening in another country then intervening was wrong. I assumed that you mean that intervening was more wrong than whatever was happening. As "countries" are constructs created by people with no 'natural' state of being, it seems you're willing to let these lines get in the way of saving people from awful fates.
But I may be misunderstanding your answers here.
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So are laws, human rights, marriages, etc, but I respect those too.
Like I've said already, I think we were originally at cross purposes over the kind of "saving people" being discussed. I'm all for saving people in a way that involves offering them safety as opposed to going in and using our superior might to impose our will on their persecutors and force them to behave.
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All laws? Because I certainly don't.
And offering safe haven is always a good start. But when the torturers in the other country won't let people go, and are herding them into death camps, I tend to be in favour of action.
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Excellent point.