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andrewducker ([personal profile] andrewducker) wrote2009-01-11 11:02 pm

In order to keep [livejournal.com profile] marrog happy.

[Poll #1329355]

[identity profile] drjon.livejournal.com 2009-01-11 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Dunno. What's a soul?

[identity profile] sterlingspider.livejournal.com 2009-01-11 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
In researching further in an attempt to make a decision on the matter I have discovered that a personal year's subscription to the online OED is $295.00 (or if you'd prefer, a low monthly rate of $29.95).

[identity profile] ashfae.livejournal.com 2009-01-11 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
How can anything be supernatural, really? If it exists, surely it's natural?

By Definition

[identity profile] pigeonhed.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
1 '(You Make me feel like a) Natural Woman' -- Aretha Franklin
2 Aretha is the Queen Of Soul

3 Do i need to go on?

[identity profile] bracknellexile.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Where's the "abstract construct invented to help mankind deal with its inadequacy at facing its own mortality" option?

[identity profile] amberite.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I strongly believe that all magical phenomena are natural, but not always independently observable due to the sensory and neurological filters that we tend to apply on our surroundings.

I think, in order to make this poll answerable, I'd need specific contextual definitions of "supernatural", "natural" and "soul". I'm assuming that soul means a person which transcends the body, but then how do we define person in that context? Thoughts and memories, inclinations and personality traits?
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[personal profile] nameandnature 2009-01-12 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Using Carrier's definition of "supernaturalism" as believing that there are are ontologically basic mental things (that is, those that don't rely on non-mental things for their operation). A soul is usually one of those mental things, as far as I can tell. Some people use it to mean "mind", in which it's not supernatural, assuming materialists are right.
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[personal profile] zz 2009-01-12 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
tasty?

[identity profile] cangetmad.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think by definition supernatural: if it were natural I'd call it consciousness.

[identity profile] lizzie-and-ari.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm yes this is kind of like 'do you believe in god'; there are really too many questions that spring from it for an a/b answer.

I answered natural because that's more true than the other option and also I wanted to see the results. To me, your soul is your inner sense of being, mixed with your personality, your nature, your thoughts, your behaviours, your dreams (day- and night-) and all that area of the human condition that cannot accurately be written down - such as the reason you love someone is because of their 'soul'; you can't really logically explain it. All of this blatently exists or we would not be able to have this discussion. Therefore I wouldn't call it supernatural.

Belief in a soul which transcends and out/prelives the physical body, however, I suppose I would call supernatural in the sense that I think you mean it.

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[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
A soul is, by definition, nonphysical and interacts only with supernatural phenomena. It thus must be supernatural itself.

[identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
A soul is not observable or measurable via natural phenomenae. I vote supernatural in this case.

-- Steve'd change his vote if there was some way to detect them other than by hand-waving means.